Posted on 12/23/2007 3:11:55 PM PST by Zakeet
Pre-eminent Mormon scholar argues Romney's answer is not at all a contradiction
Presidential candidate Mitt Romney says in a videotaped interview that he doesn't know that God has spoken to anyone since the time of Moses.
The comment appears to conflict with his Mormon faith that believes God spoke to founder Joseph Smith and other church prophets subsequently.
In the interview with Boston's WCVB, a reporter asks Romney several questions about his faith in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, including how his faith would impact him if he is elected.
"Should God speak to you, and ask you to do something that might be in conflict with your duties as president, or should He speak to your prophet who would speak to you, how would you make that decision, how would you handle that?" reporter Natalie Jacobson asks.
Romney laughs and then replies, "Well, I don't recall God speaking to me. I, I don't recall God speaking to anyone since, uh, Moses and the [burning] bush, or perhaps some others, but, but I don't have that frequent of communication."
The interview aired on the Boston station on Dec. 9 and was offered to the 28 other stations nationwide owned by Hearst-Argyle company.
Mormons believe in modern revelation and that the church's prophet communicates with God, a belief at odds with other mainstream Christian faiths. The faith was founded by Smith, who said he had spoken to God and that an angel led him to gold plates that became the Book of Mormon.
The LDS Church, through a spokesman, declined comment.
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One thing about a Mormon president... you can forget anything Romney might have ever said or done about gun legislation in Mass., the Mormons in Utah would never tolerate any such. Utah has more firepower than many nations.
His birth-daddy, Billy Blythe, was a member of the Apostolic Charismatic Church of the First Born. They've been having a war with the Mormons for nearly two centuries ~ sometimes it gets heated.
David Koresh (remember the Waco thing) had a Grandma Hollob who belonged to the Tulsa branch of the Apostolic Charismatic Church of the First Born.
They've had wars among themselves.
Small world.
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According to Intrade, the winner of the December 12th GOP debate was... Duncan Hunter.
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“the Power of the Holy Ghost is always available to direct the Lord’s Church through the Lord’s annoited servants!”
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
You are saying that the power of the Holy Ghost/Spirit is “always available” for ANY born again/saved Christian man or woman who asks for it, arent you?
That is they are saved by the shed blood of Jesus and they believe in the power of the Holy Spirit and ask Jesus for it.....
“you can forget anything Romney might have ever said or done about gun legislation in Mass., the Mormons in Utah would never tolerate any such. Utah has more firepower than many nations.”
In 1991 they ranked down at 15 among states in guns per household, but after 16 plus years of concealed carry laws and reduced restrictions in formerly restricted states, my guess would be that they would rank even lower now.
“Jesus was an enlightened soul that transended the EGO and walked the earth over 2000 years ago.”
Jesus is the Son of God, Lord and Savior, soon coming King, the Alpha and Omega, the beginnning and the end, Begotten not made, born of a virgin, the Word of God the Great Shepherd, the door of the sheepfold, the light, the I AM, our redeemer, Lord of Lords and King of Kings, Truth, The Prince of Peace, The Peace that passes understanding, The head of the Church, Immanuel, Wonderful counselor, etc
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm
Nothing about an enlightening soul (that?) transender the EGO or anything else...
It just so happens I was perusing the lds.org Newsroom site just a little while ago. I noticed this statement in an article there:
____________________ http://www.newsroom.lds.org/ldsnewsroom/eng/commentary/peace-on-earth-goodwill-to-all-men-not-just-those-who-share-my-beliefs
The article was initially available at:
Since the whole newsroom seems to have gone <poof> the only active link is an archive of the article available at: http://mormonholybooks.blogspot.com/2007/12/peace-on-earth-goodwill-to-all-men-not.html
John 3:14-21
But what about the Holy Ghost????
I thought the recent LDS.org statement on what they mean when they say Christian was problematic enough.
I have been looking for a clear official LDS statement of what they mean when they say Christian for a while now.
I really did just run across it today, and had made note of it for future reference when I read your post.
It was also so strange (coincidentally) that after just having saved the link to the article from the LDS Newsroom, the article and the whole newsroom section at LDS.org disappeared.
There are two related statements in the LDS Newsroom:
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints believes in the sanctity of human life. Therefore, the Church opposes elective abortion for personal or social convenience, and counsels its members not to submit to, perform, encourage, pay for, or arrange for such abortions.The Church allows for possible exceptions for its members when:
- Pregnancy results from rape or incest, or
- A competent physician determines that the life or health of the mother is in serious jeopardy, or
- A competent physician determines that the fetus has severe defects that will not allow the baby to survive beyond birth.
The Church teaches its members that even these rare exceptions do not justify abortion automatically. Abortion is a most serious matter and should be considered only after the persons involved have consulted with their local church leaders and feel through personal prayer that their decision is correct.
The Church has not favored or opposed legislative proposals or public demonstrations concerning abortion.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has no official position on the moment that human life begins. Further, the Church has not taken a position on the issue of embryonic stem-cell research.
Personally, I believe life begins with a fertilized egg. I don't have a problem with preventing fertilization but would not be comfortable with anything preventing development after fertilization, including stem-cell research on embryonic cells.
The argument about abortion is really about allowing men and women to absolve themselves of responsibility for the consequences of their choices.
Ultimately, when our society returns to God, out of wedlock pregnancy and abortions will decline. I oppose any government funding of abortions and think they should be restricted to the exceptions noted. Minors should need a guardian's permission.
Penalties for abortions should be financial for the provider and should be several times their gross income from an abortion. Penalties for the parents should be community service - perhaps helping families who want children find one to adopt.
May be one of those deals where you have to consider quality as well as quantity...
“May be one of those deals where you have to consider quality as well as quantity...”
I don’t get it, Utah doesn’t have many guns, but the ones they do have are of better quality than the other states that have a lot of guns?
“LDS is not strictly anti-abortion.”
Tell us more.
This is NOT what Mitt said!!
Romney laughs and then replies, "Well, I don't recall God speaking to me. I, I don't recall God speaking to anyone since, uh, Moses and the [burning] bush, or perhaps some others, but, but I don't have that frequent of communication."
Why the hell are we arguing religious dogma instead of political issues. I’m so sick of this 08 race turning into a question of religious practice. we are electing a president not a pope.
Because we have a 'modern' concept of memory, which is augmented by all KINDS of 'recordings' to back it up.
In a pre-literate society, the 'memory' portion of our brain is used quite differently than now.
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