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2 posted on 12/22/2007 10:42:55 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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I’m on John White’s side on this one.


12 posted on 12/22/2007 11:10:59 PM PST by M203M4 (True Universal Suffrage: Pets of dead illegal-immigrant felons voting Democrat (twice))
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Based on the facts in the article, a clear case of self-defense. A person has an inalienable right to keep and bear arms, and to use arms in defense of his self, his family and his property (all of which apply here.) Any local law requiring otherwise is Unconstitutional. No policeman, or other government official, can logically have greater right to use deadly force in self defense than any common person, since all government power derives solely from the people themselves. A policeman cannot obtain rights from the people, unless the people already have those rights as individuals.


18 posted on 12/22/2007 11:28:16 PM PST by sourcery (If Hillary is the next President, she may also be the last.)
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Mr. White had as much right to defend himself and his family from this lynch mob as anyone else would.


32 posted on 12/23/2007 12:00:56 AM PST by LilAngel (FReeping on a cell phone is like making Christmas dinner in an Easy Bake Oven)
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*If* this had happned in Texas he proabably wouldn’t be charged. If Sharpton et al., have a problem with it they should take it up with the lords of New York state.

It probably was not a good idea to go outside with a pistol and son with a shotgun to confront a group of drunk teens. It definately won’t deescalate the situation and probably enflamed it.

He shot the kid in the face. It was no accident.


33 posted on 12/23/2007 12:01:42 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (No buy China!!)
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"We're going to Disney. Wooo!" the victim's father, Daniel Cicciaro Sr., crowed...

THIS is what the father chooses to say after the trial? I'm sure the females were thinking..."Hey, yo! He wazza good kid, ya know?" "He didn't deserve ta be killed because he didn't do nuthin!" "Deese kids was angles..totally innicent I tell ya..."

Mr.White: Next time, 1.) have wife call the police while you... 2.) Turn on the porch light so these little darlings can see you when you... 3.)Open the main door to your house, leaving the screen door closed. 4.) If they try and open the door, or try and break in through the back, all bets are off. The wife on the phone screaming that they tried to open the door or throw things at the window, or break in the back while you excercise your right to self- defense will be gold in the courtroom.

41 posted on 12/23/2007 12:20:14 AM PST by Captainpaintball
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-Call the cops
-Stay inside
-Blast anyone (inside) threatening harm.

-end of story
different ending today

White didn’t play by the rules!

I feel sorry for the guy.

43 posted on 12/23/2007 12:23:19 AM PST by shadowcat
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I’m on Mr White’s side on this one...you don’t threaten someone on their own property.


51 posted on 12/23/2007 12:41:43 AM PST by Partisan Gunslinger
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In Texas, this home owner would get “no billed” by a grand jury, and he’d never get prosecuted.


62 posted on 12/23/2007 1:02:02 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (I'm not celebrating Kwanza!)
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"We're going to Disney. Wooo!" the victim's father, Daniel Cicciaro Sr., crowed, as he left the Arthur M. Cromarty Court complex in Riverhead, L.I., Saturday night.

What the h* was this guy thinking?!?

Something isn't right here...

73 posted on 12/23/2007 2:00:53 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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If White had called the police, armed himself and stayed inside his house while waiting for the police and if then the boys had broken into his house and he had shot them he would not be going to prison.


74 posted on 12/23/2007 2:12:07 AM PST by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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Bad situation for all.
Cicciaro was a drunken punk with a gang of other drunken punks who came looking for trouble in the form of another punk who they’s already kicked out of their party.
However, they were unarmed.
White, over-reacted by introducing firearms into a situation that probably would have resulted in a just a fist fight and at the worst a few emergency room stitches and ice packs.
White further proved to be a jerk by making claims of a KKK lynch mob and injecting the (way overused) race card into the mix as his defense.
In this case, the judge probably made the best verdict he could under the circumstances.


81 posted on 12/23/2007 3:30:59 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Before the government can give you a dollar it must first take it from another American)
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"...showed up at his doorstep ......walked to the end of the driveway"

IMO,
Doorstep? = "Not Guilty"
End of the driveway? = "Guilty"

Article isn't the best in clarity...

91 posted on 12/23/2007 5:13:23 AM PST by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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Drunken kids have no right to trespass on anybody’s property period


96 posted on 12/23/2007 6:46:01 AM PST by uncbob (m first)
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"We're going to Disney. Wooo!" the victim's father, Daniel Cicciaro Sr., crowed, as he left the Arthur M. Cromarty Court complex in Riverhead, L.I., Saturday night.

What a loser just like his kid
97 posted on 12/23/2007 6:48:31 AM PST by uncbob (m first)
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The governor should grant clemency.


98 posted on 12/23/2007 6:55:34 AM PST by bvw
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Wonder what the racial make-up of the jury was.


99 posted on 12/23/2007 6:57:47 AM PST by badgerlandjim (Hillary Clinton is to politics as Helen Thomas is to beauty.)
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What if the colors of the parties to this incident were reversed?


102 posted on 12/23/2007 7:05:18 AM PST by lady lawyer
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They may have been planning to SET THE HOUSE AFIRE, if the black family had stayed inside, though.


104 posted on 12/23/2007 7:41:10 AM PST by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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Interesting story. Thanks for posting.


107 posted on 12/23/2007 8:22:59 AM PST by PGalt
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Suffolk County Assistant District Attorney James Chalifoux said White should have simply locked the door and called police - and not gone outside to confront the teenagers with a gun.

I agree. Plus it's bad strategy to expose yourself to your attackers like they did.

112 posted on 12/23/2007 8:33:08 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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