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Everyday Items, Complex Chemistry
NY Times ^ | December 22, 2007 | AMY SCHOENFELD

Posted on 12/21/2007 10:57:43 PM PST by neverdem

Holiday shoppers this season may still worry if the toys they buy contain lead after more than 10 million children’s products were recalled this year for that reason.

But some scientists are urging consumers to focus on a different problem: the lack of hazard information on the thousands of chemicals in everyday products.

“We have enormous gaps in our understanding of how these chemicals affect health and the environment.” said Michael P. Wilson, a public health scientist at the University of California, Berkeley. “And where we do have information, we see cause for concern.”

The effects of human exposure to chemicals in consumer products are difficult to ascertain and are subject to dispute. As a result, there is a growing gap in the ways governments regulate chemicals. The European Union, Canada and California, for example, are restricting the use of some chemicals before the science on their hazards is absolutely clear; the federal government is not.

For retailers and manufacturers, conflicting requirements in the global marketplace pose a challenge. Companies have two choices: make products with potentially harmful ingredients for some countries and not others or meet the strictest standards in all markets. Increasingly companies are choosing to conform to the most restrictive rules rather than wait for any scientific consensus.

Scientists are just beginning to see how long-term exposure to chemicals affects humans throughout a lifetime. Studies by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention show that traces of hundreds of chemicals flow through the blood and urine of humans, but the center cautions that their presence does not mean that they cause harm.

Scientific research shows that thousands of chemicals in consumer products have toxic effects, but many of these studies are focused on higher levels of exposure. Less is known about the low but regular doses from...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cdc; chemicals; dihydrogenmonoxide; environment; health; science
Interactive Graphic Chemical Rules for Selected Products
1 posted on 12/21/2007 10:57:44 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

One dangerous chemical, which has a MSDS, is hydrogen dioxide, which can cause death in humans at high doses..


2 posted on 12/21/2007 11:18:11 PM PST by kipita (“Love” is to humanity as gravitons are to an infinite # of universes.)
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To: neverdem

Eighty percent of Deca is used as flame retardant in the plastic cases of televisions. It’s also used commercially in furniture, drapes and electrical wires. Widespread use of this chemical has resulted in widespread exposure. Deca, and the chemicals it breaks down into, have been found in several animal species, as well as human breast milk and blood.

Alliance for a Clean and Healthy Maine
http://www.nrcm.org/news_detail.asp?news=1429


3 posted on 12/21/2007 11:26:11 PM PST by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: endthematrix

Thanks for the link.


4 posted on 12/21/2007 11:38:18 PM PST by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: kipita
One dangerous chemical, which has a MSDS, is hydrogen dioxide, which can cause death in humans at high doses..

Who taught you to use abbreviations without explaining them first?

5 posted on 12/21/2007 11:41:41 PM PST by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: kipita

Who has synthesized hydrogen dioxide?


6 posted on 12/21/2007 11:44:45 PM PST by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: neverdem
Who has synthesized hydrogen dioxide?

Well, H2O2 is pretty common, though it can be a bit nasty. It's normally referred to as hydrogen peroxide, though.

7 posted on 12/21/2007 11:52:23 PM PST by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: supercat; kipita
Hydrogen peroxide is H2O2, true, but kipita wrote hydrogen dioxide, i.e. O-H-O or HO2.
8 posted on 12/22/2007 12:09:33 AM PST by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: neverdem; supercat

I’m sorry, I was just making a joke about chemiphobia and referring to water. Toxicity depends on the dose, not the chemical!


9 posted on 12/22/2007 12:30:43 AM PST by kipita (“Love” is to humanity as gravitons are to an infinite # of universes.)
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To: neverdem

An MSDS is a material safety data sheet and it must accompany all chemicals, including water.


10 posted on 12/22/2007 12:32:01 AM PST by kipita (“Love” is to humanity as gravitons are to an infinite # of universes.)
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To: kipita

An MSDS is a material safety data sheet and it must accompany all chemicals, including water.

msds for water link: http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/w0600.htm


11 posted on 12/22/2007 12:41:31 AM PST by ThomasThomas (An investigative journalist is one who uses spellcheck.)
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To: neverdem; supercat

BTW, some fellow chemist mistakenly refer to water as “hydrogen dioxide”, but official IUPAC (International Union of Pure and Applied Sciences) names for water are hydrogen oxide and oxidane.

Just about all chemicals are considered toxic when 1 person in 1,000,000 people develop cancer over 30 years of exposure. The exception is THMs (trihalomethanes) in which the acceptable cancer risk is 1 per 10,000. The reason is because these compounds are created when tap water is chlorinated and there are no other technologies available at reasonable costs. The most at-risk group for THM exposure is pregnant women. With this, you probably know more than most people about chemicals and toxicity.


12 posted on 12/22/2007 12:49:44 AM PST by kipita (“Love” is to humanity as gravitons are to an infinite # of universes.)
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To: kipita
An MSDS is a material safety data sheet and it must accompany all chemicals, including water.

I didn't need the explanation, but I'm sure others were scratching their heads.

13 posted on 12/22/2007 12:52:03 AM PST by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: neverdem
I didn't need the explanation, but I'm sure others were scratching their heads.

You're right! That's how it is when one talks about their career field.

14 posted on 12/22/2007 1:01:24 AM PST by kipita (“Love” is to humanity as gravitons are to an infinite # of universes.)
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To: kipita
I’m sorry, I was just making a joke about chemiphobia and referring to water. Toxicity depends on the dose, not the chemical!

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I wonder what they found and what the dose was?

15 posted on 12/22/2007 1:18:59 AM PST by neverdem (Call talk radio. We need a Constitutional Amendment for Congressional term limits. Let's Roll!)
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To: neverdem
I wonder what they found and what the dose was?

I see your point. Human toxicity based on chemical exposure depends on the dose, not the chemical. Non-human exposure is a different, much more complex, political and expensive matter.

16 posted on 12/22/2007 1:31:27 AM PST by kipita (“Love” is to humanity as gravitons are to an infinite # of universes.)
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To: kipita

Even with humans it is more complex, as a dose that is non-toxic to one person may be very toxic to another, depending on variable factors including their size, liver condition, etc.


17 posted on 12/22/2007 4:13:11 AM PST by TruthSetsUFree
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Even with humans it is more complex, as a dose that is non-toxic to one person may be very toxic to another, depending on variable factors including their size, liver condition, etc.

Oh yes and then there are mutagens and teratagens to consider. The sad thing is what started out as a scientific, objective and realistic career field turned into “the place where companies and government employees go when they have little to no value”. Then lobbying money started paying for results/regulations that suited business interest and now environmental is somewhat of a joke.

18 posted on 12/22/2007 4:39:01 AM PST by kipita (“Love” is to humanity as gravitons are to an infinite # of universes.)
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To: neverdem

Baaah, not a word on fun and exciting uses of common household products...


19 posted on 12/22/2007 7:47:46 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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