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A Lightbulb Tea Party?
Fox News ^ | December 21, 2007 | A Lightbulb Tea Party?

Posted on 12/21/2007 5:36:22 AM PST by libstripper

“No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session.”

That comment by New York State Surrogate Court Judge Gideon Tucker in 1866 aptly summarizes the so-called “Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007,” signed into law this week by President Bush.

First, the law requires auto fuel efficiency standards to increase by 40 percent by 2020. Unfortunately, this goal is presently only achievable by reducing vehicle weight — but lighter cars are deadlier cars. So what’s the purported benefit of mandating 4,000 or more deaths per year?

The law’s supporters claim that it may reduce national oil consumption by about 5 percent (400 million barrels of oil per year). Doing the math, your life is now worth about 100,000 barrels of oil. In touting the law, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said, “it is an environmental issue, and therefore a health issue… it is an energy issue, and it is a moral issue.”

But what exactly is the morality of risking thousands of lives every year to reduce oil consumption by an inconsequential amount?

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 110th; cflbulbs; energy; lightbulbs; nannystate
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The new energy law is an appalling monstrosity, even for those of us, like me, who use CFLs in a number of applications. They just don't work everywhere. The new law also shows how anti-human environmentalism is, since the mandated lighter cars will result in about 4,000 more highway deaths per year.
1 posted on 12/21/2007 5:36:25 AM PST by libstripper
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“House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said, “it is an environmental issue, and therefore a health issue… it is an energy issue, and it is a moral issue.””

Nancy’s speaking in tongues again. She needs to lay off the bong.


2 posted on 12/21/2007 5:39:35 AM PST by Slapshot68
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To: libstripper

I think that this congress wants us to use bulbs that are as dim as they are.


3 posted on 12/21/2007 5:41:44 AM PST by Howie66 (To the RAT Party: How can I question your patriotism? You have none, so what's your point?)
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“Unfortunately, this goal is presently only achievable by reducing vehicle weight “

That is simply not true. Most if not all are mileage increases are coming from better engineering of the transmissions and things like shutting off cylinders when they are not needed.

Not to say we cannot reduce the weight and enhance performance. Think fighter planes....


4 posted on 12/21/2007 5:43:37 AM PST by Adder (hialb)
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First, the law requires auto fuel efficiency standards to increase by 40 percent by 2020. Unfortunately, this goal is presently only achievable by reducing vehicle weight — but lighter cars are deadlier cars. So what’s the purported benefit of mandating 4,000 or more deaths per year?

So Democrats will be killing more innocent American men, women and children EVERY year than has died in the War in Iraq?????

5 posted on 12/21/2007 5:43:56 AM PST by Always Right
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To: libstripper

I just love it!

Congress tells people what bulb they can use and people get upset.

Meanwhile, Congress has been doing this to business for over a century!

Some people are a little late to the party.


6 posted on 12/21/2007 5:45:24 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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your life is now worth about 100,000 barrels of oil.

Please don't tell my wife.

7 posted on 12/21/2007 5:46:37 AM PST by Vet_6780
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I don’t mind using CFLs if they save me money. However, I use chandelier light bulbs because the look better in my light fixtures. Also, won’t CFLs contaminate landfills more than traditional bulbs?
8 posted on 12/21/2007 5:48:06 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed less people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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Not to say we cannot reduce the weight and enhance performance. Think fighter planes....

Exactly, think fighter planes at millions of dollars a copy. That should give you a feel for what new cars are going to cost to comply with this crap. But don't confuse fighter planes with the performance you can expect.

9 posted on 12/21/2007 5:50:14 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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and Mr. Bush signed this lousy bill?? My opinion of him has gone down a little. If he really believes government should do this then he is no conservative. If he agreed to these measures to somehow find favor with centrists and environmentalists that was a miscalculation too because he will always be tarred as a big oilman/polluter.

Who knew the federal government could outlaw light bulbs! Oh the absurdity. Sadly even if the next president is a Republican we can count on more of this intrusion into our lives if that president is named Romney, Giuliani, Huckabee, or even McCain.


10 posted on 12/21/2007 5:51:01 AM PST by TNCMAXQ
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So Democrats will be killing more innocent American men, women and children EVERY year than has died in the War in Iraq?????

Oh, that's good...

11 posted on 12/21/2007 5:51:18 AM PST by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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Not to say we cannot reduce the weight and enhance performance. Think fighter planes...

Are you saying that cars are going to cost millions and millions and millions...?

12 posted on 12/21/2007 5:54:31 AM PST by fewz (Money/power/not patriotism motivates the political class.)
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Amazing that the fate of our nation is in the hands of people who, for the most part, have been abject failures at every thing they have tried in life. Except kissing butts and making promises with other people’s money for votes.


13 posted on 12/21/2007 5:54:34 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat; but they know what's best for us)
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Its absolutely appalling. Is this the deal that Bush is cutting in order to get defense spending? Its a crying shame.


14 posted on 12/21/2007 5:56:37 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: MileHi; Always Right; libstripper
it is a moral issue

And which party screams over and over again that you can't legislate morality? God, these people should drown in their own hypocrisy.

As far as killing more men, women, and children every year than died in the entire Iraq war, don't worry. As soon as the insurance companies figure out that these wonderful, fuel efficient cars are more easily damaged and killing more people, driving up their costs, they'll buy off the politicians and we'll suddenly have a national 40 mph speed limit. It will be justified as an energy crisis, and we'll be doing it for the children.

15 posted on 12/21/2007 5:59:08 AM PST by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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That is simply not true. Most if not all are mileage increases are coming from better engineering of the transmissions and things like shutting off cylinders when they are not needed.

And most of those engineering efforts have been done already. When it comes down to it, you simply need to burn X amount of fuel to move Y amount of mass; so the most direct way to reduce X is to reduce Y. And yes, it can be done, as it is done in fighter planes... but fighter planes, strong as they are for moving through the air, are remarkably fragile when they encounter solid objects.

16 posted on 12/21/2007 5:59:31 AM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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Not to say we cannot reduce the weight and enhance performance. Think fighter planes...

Are you saying that cars are going to cost millions and millions and millions...?

No, I think he is saying that they will cost millions and completely shatter upon impact.

17 posted on 12/21/2007 5:59:46 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: libstripper

MERCURY is in the new bulbs and you must take them to a HAZARD DUMP!


18 posted on 12/21/2007 6:00:35 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Adder

What happens when two fighter planes hit?


19 posted on 12/21/2007 6:02:41 AM PST by live+let_live
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We should start some type of thread listing all the applications the loss of the lightbulb will have.

This will impact things people won’t even think about offhand.

aquariums
brooders
incubators/hatchers
gardening lights
reptilian lamps


20 posted on 12/21/2007 6:09:06 AM PST by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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