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Boy, 8, sued (by 60 Year Old Man) in Beaver Creek ski collision
Vail Daily ^ | December 20, 2007 | Steve Lynn

Posted on 12/20/2007 10:51:36 PM PST by Arec Barrwin

Boy, 8, sued in Beaver Creek ski collision

Man, 60, says he was injured in crash on catwalk at Beaver Creek’s Arrowhead area

Scott Swimm, 8, is being sued for a ski collision his father describes as a tap. A Pennsylvania man said tore a tendon in his shoulder in the crash.

Steve Lynn Vail, CO Colorado December 20, 2007

EAGLE-VAIL, Colorado — Eight-year-old Scott Swimm spreads his arms wide when he describes the crash he was in with another skier at Arrowhead Mountain in January.

“We were literally about this far away,” said Scott, an Eagle-Vail resident and third-grader at Eagle County Charter Academy.

Then 7, Scott was skiing slowly and in control when he tried to pass David J. Pfahler, said his father, Robb Swimm, who witnessed the crash.

Almost eight months later, the 8-year-old and his father were named as defendants in a lawsuit alleging that Scott collided with Pfahler at Arrowhead Mountain Jan. 12.

“It wasn’t a violent collision or anything, Scott just kind of tapped his ski boots,” said Robb Swimm, who has lived in the Vail Valley with his wife, Susan Swimm, for 17 years.

Pfahler, 60, of Allentown, Penn., tore a tendon in his shoulder in the collision and is suing for physical therapy expenses, vacation time and other expenses, according to the lawsuit, filed in U.S. District Court in Colorado.

Pfahler has a season pass and skis often, said Jim Chalat, Pfahler’s Denver-based attorney.

“He’s a very strong recreational skier,” Chalat said.

Scott was skiing ahead of his father on the catwalk Golden Bear when he tried to pass Pfahler on the right, Robb Swimm said.

Pfahler was skiing ahead of Scott and turned into him. Scott, the uphill skier, did not have time to react, Robb Swimm said.

Scott said he was sorry and started to ski away when Pfahler grabbed Scott’s legs, cursed at him and said he would sue him, Robb Swimm said.

“I was really scared,” Scott said.

Catwalk crash Pfahler, who declined comment on his attorney’s advice, works in publishing for Reader’s Digest, Chalat said.

“He wants to get back to work,” Chalat said.

Marlene Ambrogio, Pfahler’s wife, is also named as a plaintiff and is seeking damages for “nursing, medical and other services rendered to Mr. Pfahler,” the lawsuit says.

The total value of the Pfahler’s and Ambrogio’s losses are unknown, but they exceed $75,000, the lawsuit says.

The lawsuit says Scott was skiing “recklessly” and at a “high rate of speed.”

Susan Swimm said her 48-pound son could not have been skiing more than 10 mph on the gentle slope.

She said the lawsuit sends the wrong message to children trying to learn the sport: that they cannot make mistakes while skiing.

“Who in the world sues a child?” she said. “It just boggles my mind every day.” Chalat declined to comment specifically on the case.

“There aren’t any significant policy issues that drive this case,” Chalat said. “It’s a private matter between private parties.”

Scott cannot be sued When skiers pass other skiers, they need to make sure that the other skiers are aware they’re being passed by shouting or giving them enough room to turn, Avon defense attorney Bruce Carey said.

“If one skier is completely behind the downhill skier, then the downhill skier would be unaware of the uphill skier,” said Carey, who prosecuted the first case of reckless skiing to go to trial in Colorado. “That’s why the burden falls on the uphill skier.”

Carey acknowledged that he has never heard of an 8-year-old being sued in a skiing collision.

Colorado law says a minor cannot be sued, but his or her parents can, said Clare Huntington, associate professor at the University of Colorado Law School.

“This is just a basic rule,” she said.

The court will likely dismiss Scott from the lawsuit, she said.

Robb Swimm said he answered the door when sheriff’s deputies served the papers for the lawsuit to his home — Scott was at school.

“They said they would return at 4 p.m. and Scott would need to be here to sign the papers,” he said.

Susan Swimm does not think her son did anything wrong and he has been taking ski lessons in the Vail Valley since he was 3 years old.

“They spend a lot of time talking about skier safety with these children,” she said. “It’s drilled into them.”

If the case is settled, Scott and his family won’t have to pay damages because the family has insurance, Robb Swimm said.

Still, Scott Swimm, who will give his version of the collision to lawyers in a federal court in Denver Jan. 7 and 8, doesn’t feel like skiing lately, he said.

“I feel like this guy could be on the mountain and it’ll happen again,” Scott Swimm said.

Staff Writer Steve Lynn can be reached at 748-2931 or slynn@vaildaily.com.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: lawsuit; litigious; ski; tortreform
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To: Arec Barrwin
Seems to me it's an assumed risk on part of the crotchety old man. He also apparently assaulted the child, yes? I'm sorry he got injured, but it really sounds like a freak accident. I've bounced down entire mountains only to get back on the lift. It's a mental disorder, not physical....
21 posted on 12/21/2007 1:29:10 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Arec Barrwin
Allentown, Penn

My city. What an embarrassment to have him live there.

22 posted on 12/21/2007 1:39:08 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Arec Barrwin
Pfahler, who declined comment on his attorney’s advice, works in publishing for Reader’s Digest

Another reason to stop reading the liberal leaning Reader's Digest. [sarcasm]

23 posted on 12/21/2007 3:12:45 AM PST by rawhide
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To: ME-262

I like your ending better.


24 posted on 12/21/2007 3:15:56 AM PST by MDspinboyredux
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To: Arec Barrwin

So this ‘strong, accomplished’ skiier was on the kiddie slope, skiing so competently that he was overtaken by a seven year old. Then after falling down assaults said seven year old by grabbing his leg. THEN he endangers the kid by swearing at him and breaching the peace.

and HE sues the kid? he should have been arrested for reckless endangerment, assault on a child, and breach of peace.

BTW: if dad witnessed the scene, why didn’t he intervene when the guy grabbed junior?

what makes me think that we’re not getting the whole story here?


25 posted on 12/21/2007 3:35:44 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: camle

I’m not so sure, but I don’t think you can sue a minor.

It would be like suing somebody who was mentally incompetent or schizophrenic. If anybody was gonna get sued, it should be the kids guardian, in this case, the parents.

If I was the judge, I would rule for the geezer. And the settlement oughta be having a ski pole put where the sun don’t shine. Might just clear up a bit of that constipation problem he seems to have.

Freakin retard!


26 posted on 12/21/2007 3:46:48 AM PST by djf (I'm too busy to be jolly. Tis the time to cook a collie!)
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To: calex59
Skiing is a dangerous sport...

You realize this lawsuit isn't about the risk, its about the fact that this 60 year old dirt ball finds himself with possible way to take someone else's money, and he's going to exploit it. Nothing more.

You can talk about assumed risk and frivolous lawsuits all day, he (and his lawyer) aren't going to care. At the end of the day, they're looking to get paid. No different than your typical professional welfare dirtball.

27 posted on 12/21/2007 3:50:41 AM PST by MichiganMan (Last year, this consumer spent over $1,700 on Linux compatible hardware.)
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To: Arec Barrwin
You've gotta watch them slopes!

Merry Christmas!

28 posted on 12/21/2007 4:35:19 AM PST by Young Werther (Julius Caesar (Quae Cum Ita Sunt. Since these things are so.))
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To: Arec Barrwin

If he grabbed the 7 year old, the parents should press assault charges. This is nothing more than a simple accident. Any lawyer attempting to take this case to trial should be disbarred.


29 posted on 12/21/2007 4:42:31 AM PST by SueRae
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To: geopyg
Scott said he was sorry and started to ski away when Pfahler grabbed Scott’s legs, cursed at him and said he would sue him, Robb Swimm said.

I suppose Swimm could say they won't file charges over assault and battery against the Pfahler if he drops his suit. The kid's bump could very well have been accidental, but Pfahler actions were unambiguously deliberate.
30 posted on 12/21/2007 4:51:57 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Young Werther

It took me several minutes of staring to understand the connection, but then I realized she was in ski gear.


31 posted on 12/21/2007 4:58:12 AM PST by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people. Socialist nannies do not become us.)
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To: dfwgator

Thanks for posting that pic. Kerry must be a kook on the slopes. His boots are hanging 3” off the edge and the price tag/rental ID sticker looks like its still there. And the skier gloves ... he probably ‘got knocked over’ a lot that day. KOOK.


32 posted on 12/21/2007 5:00:47 AM PST by BillyBonebrake
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To: Arec Barrwin

While I agree with the sentiments in the thread it’s worth pointing out that a “catwalk” may or may not be a “kiddie slope”. Often its like a ski highway which takes you from one part of the mountain to another and you end up with skiers of all different abilities just because it’s the only way to get from A to B. Often happens at the end of the day when everyone is getting off the mountain.


33 posted on 12/21/2007 5:06:09 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: SampleMan

It’s one of those optical illusion photographs.


34 posted on 12/21/2007 5:11:09 AM PST by Cvengr (Every believer is a grenade. Arrogance is the grenade pin. Pull the pin and fragment your life.)
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To: Young Werther
I love moguls
35 posted on 12/21/2007 5:11:52 AM PST by bird4four4 (Behead those who suggest Islam is violent!)
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To: Arec Barrwin
Sounds like Mr. Pfahler is a real jerk ! I guess he is attempting to dig for gold.

Oh, you live in Vail, you must be rich ! Here, I am going to take some of your money through a frivolous lawsuit.
36 posted on 12/21/2007 5:16:08 AM PST by CORedneck
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To: Arec Barrwin

Is this John Kerry?


37 posted on 12/21/2007 5:17:17 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: Young Werther
If she bumped into me the last thing I would be thinking about is a lawsuit!
38 posted on 12/21/2007 5:28:10 AM PST by 2111USMC (www.Fred08.com)
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To: Arec Barrwin

Reads as though the old man has been misusing the young boy. Namely, as a crutch for blaming all the woes of life upon in his frustrated thinking.


39 posted on 12/21/2007 5:32:11 AM PST by Cvengr (Every believer is a grenade. Arrogance is the grenade pin. Pull the pin and fragment your life.)
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To: Arec Barrwin
"Marlene Ambrogio, Pfahler’s wife, is also named as a plaintiff and is seeking damages for “nursing, medical and other services rendered to Mr. Pfahler,” the lawsuit says."

" The total value of the Pfahler’s and Ambrogio’s losses are unknown, but they exceed $75,000, the lawsuit says."

Emergency room: $873
Nursing, medical and other services rendered to Mr. Pfahler by his wife: $74,127

Wanna bet?

40 posted on 12/21/2007 5:56:04 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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