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BAPTISTS SPLIT OVER HUCK (Robert Novak)
The New York Post ^ | December 20, 2007 | Robert Novak

Posted on 12/20/2007 5:37:55 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

WHEN Mike Huckabee went to Houston Tuesday to raise funds for his fast-rising, money-starved candidacy, a luncheon for the ordained Baptist minister was arranged by evangelical Christians. On hand was Judge Paul Pressler, a hero to Southern Baptist Convention reformers. But he was a non-paying guest who supports Fred Thompson for president.

Huckabee greeted Pressler warmly. That contrasted with Huckabee's anger two months ago when they saw each other in California. The Arkansas ex-governor took issue then with comments by Pressler that Huckabee had been a slacker in the war against secularists in the Baptist church.

Warmth in Texas and hostility in California reflects the dual personality of the pastor-politician: Huckabee can come over as either a Reagan or a Nixon. More than personality explains why not all his Baptist brethren have signed on the dotted line for Huckabee. He didn't join the "Conservative Resurgence" that successfully rebelled against liberals in the Southern Baptist Convention a generation ago.

Criticism from co-religionists stands apart from criticism of Huckabee's big-government, high-tax 10 years as governor. Because no GOP candidate since Pat Robertson in 1988 depends so much on support from evangelicals, opposition by fellow Southern Baptists is significant.

Huckabee's base is reflected by sponsors of Tuesday's fund-raiser at the Houston home of Dr. Steve Hotze, a leader in the highly conservative Christian Reconstruction movement. State Rep. Debbie Riddle was the only elected official on the host committee; David Welch is executive director of the Houston Area Pastor Council and entrepreneur J. Keet Lewis is an active Southern Baptist.

Better known is Baptist minister Rick Scarborough, founder of Vision America. In endorsing Huckabee on Nov. 1, Scarborough said, "I acknowledge that Huckabee is not the perfect candidate" but one "who will listen to wise counsel."

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arkansas; US: Tennessee; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: baptists; christianvote; election; electionpresident; elections; evangelicals; fredthompson; gop; mikehuckabee; paulpressler; republicans; richardland; robertnovak
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Uh-oh! Huckabee can't even get his own co-religionists behind him?
1 posted on 12/20/2007 5:37:55 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This Baptist Ain’t!


2 posted on 12/20/2007 5:39:37 AM PST by TexGuy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Welcome to the camp
I guess you know why I’m here
My name is Huckster
And I’m being pushed this year
If you want to follow me
You have to play pinball
And put in the earplugs
Put on the eye shades
You know where to put the cork...


3 posted on 12/20/2007 5:40:20 AM PST by LRS (It's time to put Hillary on the 3:10 to Yuma...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
People are always mistaking the Baptists for the "split Baptists". Still, they aen't as bad as the independent Christian churches who regularly spin off a new congregation once they get up near 100 members.

No way this Novak guy understands any of this.

4 posted on 12/20/2007 5:42:58 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Yah. It’s treating as news that a denomination of over 15 million is supporting more than one candidate. No “ut oh” more like “so what?”


5 posted on 12/20/2007 5:46:01 AM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I have found that most people in the MSM have no clue about Protestants or even Catholics and the Prince of Darkness is no exception.

BTW, I will never vote for the pro-open border wishy washy Huckster!

6 posted on 12/20/2007 5:47:37 AM PST by Tolkien (There are things more important than Peace. Freedom being one of those.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Raised Southern Baptist, and now a Methodist, I can safely say, it takes a Baptist to know a Baptist.


7 posted on 12/20/2007 5:54:35 AM PST by AmericanMade1776
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Slick Mickey" Huckabee is too reminiscent of Bill Clinton.

Fool me once...

8 posted on 12/20/2007 6:05:46 AM PST by syriacus ( 30,000 Americans died in 30 months in Korea under Truman, who had abandoned S Korea in 1949.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

I was raised a Southern Baptist too, converted to Episcopal & then jumped off that sinking ship - now I’m a non-denominational Christian.

You’re right - it definitely takes a Baptist to know a Baptist - no one in the media knows Baptists.


9 posted on 12/20/2007 6:07:17 AM PST by alicewonders
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Due to the magic of computers, we can how see Mike Huckabee as he looks late in his first term as President:
10 posted on 12/20/2007 6:10:54 AM PST by trenton1776
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Conservatives who take a close look Spit on Huck.


11 posted on 12/20/2007 6:11:00 AM PST by flowerplough (Ron Paul on War: "War is bad, mmm-kay. If you do war, you're bad. Mmm-kay?")
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To: syriacus

Hi there! How are yooo?
I'm Huck Maccabee and I wanna be your President!
Did I mention I used to be a preacher?

12 posted on 12/20/2007 6:12:00 AM PST by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m a Baptist, and so is the rest of my family. My dad is either hard-headed, or a fanatic, because he has told me on numerous occasions he would not vote for a Mormon, but instead he is voting for Huck (in large part, if not wholly because Huck is/was an ordained minister). I’ve also told him on numerous occasions that Huck is just a Dem who is pro-life. Huck is soft on crime, pro-big government, and probably would be weak on national defense (given that he has absolutely no idea of what is going on in the world around us, and the threat of Islamic extremist). One thing my dad stumped me on was this: Huck is for the fair tax, thereby pretty much abolishing the IRS to some extent. If that’s the case, then how can he be pro-big government. My best guess is that the fair tax would bring in a comparable amount of money in relation to the existing tax structure. Given that people will pretty much be able to decided, to some extent, how much they pay in taxes, there would be a slight decline in tax revenue for the government. However, since we would be using a fair tax system, the IRS would be obsolete, but there would have to be an establishment, so some extent, to collect the money (although I’m sure this establishment would be far smaller as compared to the IRS), right? That being said, would the government be able to make up the difference for the deficit by abolishing the IRS, thereby giving the government as much money as they have today for big government? Can someone help me on this? I need to lure my dad away from the dark side.

Go Fred Go


13 posted on 12/20/2007 6:17:02 AM PST by camerongood210 (Defeat the idiots in '08, vote for Fred Thompson)
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To: billorites

Exactly! LOL!!


14 posted on 12/20/2007 6:17:36 AM PST by syriacus ( 30,000 Americans died in 30 months in Korea under Truman, who had abandoned S Korea in 1949.)
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To: muawiyah

Exactly!


15 posted on 12/20/2007 6:22:03 AM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: trenton1776

That’s funny. My mom just said to me the other day that she doesn’t think she could vote for the Huckster cause he reminded her too much of the president from 24!


16 posted on 12/20/2007 6:38:30 AM PST by marinamuffy ("..pacifism ensures that cruelty will prevail on earth." - Dennis Prager/ www.gohunter08.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

looked quick,thought the headline said Rapists Split Over Huck...


17 posted on 12/20/2007 6:38:38 AM PST by wiggen
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Some Baptists don’t agree with Tax Hike Mike that money belongs to the guvmint (which graciously lets you keep some of it for yourself)? I’m shocked!


18 posted on 12/20/2007 6:45:50 AM PST by steve-b (Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense. --RAH)
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To: camerongood210

Huckster’s record shows that tax increases are his option of first resort and spending restraint is just not on the table. With that mindset, taxes (whether it’s the existing income tax, the FairTax, whatever) are bound to go up (especially if the Democrats increase their hold on Congress, which seems likely).


19 posted on 12/20/2007 6:48:11 AM PST by steve-b (Sin lies only in hurting others unnecessarily. All other "sins" are invented nonsense. --RAH)
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To: TexGuy
Make it two. I will not vote for the Hulkster. Nor will I vote for Rudi or most of the other wannabees. It is either Hunter or Fred, or basically, I am staying home. I am tired of voting for people who lie their way to the nomination. And, don’t hand me that if I stay home, I it is like a vote for Hillary garbage. I am one who actually votes with my conscience. If I cannot live with my conscience, then I cannot vote for that person. I don’t vote for the LESSER of two evils. To me EVIL is EVIL, whether the most or lesser of it. Would you vote for a little bit of Satan over Satan himself? Not me. These people who cry that crap do not influence me one bit. I will vote for Hunter or Fred or no one. That simple. Because my vote for any of the others is like a vote for Hillary or Obama anyway. They are the same.
20 posted on 12/20/2007 6:50:36 AM PST by RetiredArmy (Better prepare, come Nov 08, we have a Marxist Commissar President and Marxist Congress.)
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