Think how easy it is to get someone declared “mentally ill”...
There are certainly enough people who think anyone who actually believes they need a gun is mentally unstable.
I involutarily committed someone for 72 hours (I’m a police officer) because he goes off of his meds and gets out of hand, calling friends with suicide threats etc..
He has a concealed pistol license (CPL) in this state. His paranoia fixates on the local govt. (in his case the county govt.) but he can’t seem to tell the difference between me ( a city employee) and the county officials.
I’ve committed him 4 times in the last year for 72 hours each, and each time he get kicked to the curb by the doctors/judge.
This is the game that the defense attorney’s play. If you agree to stay voluntarily for 7 days, then again for another 7 days, the meds kick in and your not a danger to yourself or others anymore.
Then you’re free to walk out the door and have never been “involutarily committed” for 14 days or more, which is the triggering mechanism for our state to revoke your CPL.
Each time I’ve contacted him he has been closer and closer to my point of entry to his property. He is figuring out how to ambush me and my partner.
I had a heart to heart talk with his wife explaining that I would not respond to his house anymore without my rifle. The last time I contacted him he had two beer bottles in his hands and would not put them down.
I explained that had they been broken or had they been knives he would have ended up shot/dead.
I also told her she needed to convince her husband to take and stay on his meds because I didn’t want to end up shooting her husband dead in the head with my rifle in front of her kids and her.
It may have worked because I haven’t had to go back there in 6 months.
I am a strong supporter of personal firerm ownership rights and that the 2nd ammendment means what it says.
However, their has to be someone smarter than I who can figure out a solution to this problem (the one I described above) where he can continue to purchase firearms even when clearly he is crazy.
I left many of his signs of mental illness out of this to shorten the comment, but suffice it to say, he is crazy enough that he sees witches flying out of the moon and believes they are real.
True uneasiness comes from "who" would be placed into the position of control over the medical industry twisting arms of those who tote the sheepskin to be a credible determiner of who is mentally ill.
Just do not ever go see a psychologist,psychoanalyst, therapist, etc. Make sure your kids are never diagnosed with ADHD, depression, etc.
In some quarters, you’re already mentally ill if you disbelieve the global warming ideology and the need for global governance - especially if you believe that keeping arms is a defense against your own government should they become a “domestic” enemy.
It can start with something as ordinary as getting suspended on FR.
That's why I can no longer edit my profile...
Well, think of what portion of our population is the most heavily represented in the "social" sciences. And know that they get to create the definition. I envision something like this:
"If you're conservative, you are mentally Ill and will not be able to legally own or carry a gun."
Remember some Berkeley psychologists published a paper arguing conservatism was a mental disorder....
Think how easy it is to get someone declared “mentally ill”...”
Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi have to give up their guns?????
I have, and I also think about how many of our honorable war vets will be unable to buy a gun because they have been or will be diagnosed with some psycho-babble "mental disorder" like post traumatic stress syndrome, which under this new gun law is enough to put them on the ineligible list of the FBI background check and prevent them from legally buying a gun for the rest of their lives.
What galls me as much as anything about this is that the NRA, of which I had been a member and financial supporter for decades, gave the bill a thumbs up and actually worked for it's passage alongside such antis as Cockroach Schumer and the rest of that pack of liars and con artists. I dropped my NRA membership when it came up for renewal last summer because of their crap like this, and when their phone bank hucksters call asking me to renew it I let them know why I haven't and won't.
Here is something I copied from a veterans support group website:
By Marilyn Elias, USA TODAY
As many as one out of four veterans of Afghanistan and Iraq treated at Veterans Affairs hospitals in the past 16 months were diagnosed with mental disorders, a number that has been steadily rising, according to a report in Thursday's New England Journal of Medicine.
Records show that 20% of eligible ex-soldiers came to VA hospitals seeking medical treatment between October 2003 and February 2005. Overall, 26% of them were diagnosed with mental disorders, say Han Kang and Kenneth Hyams of the VA.
Post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) was most common, diagnosed in 10% of patients, followed by drug or alcohol abuse (9%). Seven percent were diagnosed with depression; 6% had anxiety disorders, such as phobias and panic. Many ex-soldiers had multiple disorders, Kang says.
I'm sure that many vets will go to those clinics thinking they will get help for their combat related stress problems, and not realizing that they may well be putting their 2nd Amendment rights at risk just by going there.
This worries the heck out of me....
Will this keep more of our troops from seeking treatment for PTSD?