I involutarily committed someone for 72 hours (I’m a police officer) because he goes off of his meds and gets out of hand, calling friends with suicide threats etc..
He has a concealed pistol license (CPL) in this state. His paranoia fixates on the local govt. (in his case the county govt.) but he can’t seem to tell the difference between me ( a city employee) and the county officials.
I’ve committed him 4 times in the last year for 72 hours each, and each time he get kicked to the curb by the doctors/judge.
This is the game that the defense attorney’s play. If you agree to stay voluntarily for 7 days, then again for another 7 days, the meds kick in and your not a danger to yourself or others anymore.
Then you’re free to walk out the door and have never been “involutarily committed” for 14 days or more, which is the triggering mechanism for our state to revoke your CPL.
Each time I’ve contacted him he has been closer and closer to my point of entry to his property. He is figuring out how to ambush me and my partner.
I had a heart to heart talk with his wife explaining that I would not respond to his house anymore without my rifle. The last time I contacted him he had two beer bottles in his hands and would not put them down.
I explained that had they been broken or had they been knives he would have ended up shot/dead.
I also told her she needed to convince her husband to take and stay on his meds because I didn’t want to end up shooting her husband dead in the head with my rifle in front of her kids and her.
It may have worked because I haven’t had to go back there in 6 months.
I am a strong supporter of personal firerm ownership rights and that the 2nd ammendment means what it says.
However, their has to be someone smarter than I who can figure out a solution to this problem (the one I described above) where he can continue to purchase firearms even when clearly he is crazy.
I left many of his signs of mental illness out of this to shorten the comment, but suffice it to say, he is crazy enough that he sees witches flying out of the moon and believes they are real.
He should have been locked up in a nut house the 2nd time.
Personally, if the judges and lawyers were targets they might wake up but I doubt it.
If this nut job hurt one of my family members I’d go after the judge and defense lawyer first. I’m tired of living with their libearlism crap.
No extra "laws" or "databases" for the government to abuse and deny us our Rights.
Set ‘em up, eliminate the threat before the viper strikes...
The lawyers played no games to try and release them.
The "police officers" in the USSR were certain that these individuals were mentally ill. To a man, they would confirm it if asked, and they were safe from these deranged individuals.
Freedom is not safety and always has a price
Someone, the police or the prosecutor, has to take him to a Judge and get him declared mentally incompetent. Without the 7 days voluntary business. Then, and only then, with that kind of due process, can he be denied his RKBA. It really ought to take a jury, but it generally does not. But you don't want some liberal psychologist do be able to disqualify someone on her own hook. Heck, she might decide you were too rough with some scum bag and a "danger to others', and there you'd be, no job, and no guns. Or an outlaw.
Only a judge can determine whether he's a danger to himself, or others. If the judge determines that, and orders an evaluation, or has one in hand, and the evaluation says he's got a problem, and the judge makes a finding/ruling that the 7 day treatment stay is needed, due to danger to self,or others, the person has been adjudicated a danger to self, or others per the fed requirement. That's all that's needed for the fed disqualifier to take place. State law doesn't matter. Fed law says he can't possess a gun period anywhere in the US.
Cho, from the VA Tech shooting, had been adjudicated a danger to self after being hauled in for stalking a woman who didn't know him. The State of VA had stricter rules than the feds and VA failed to volunteer the info to the NICS, as per fed request. HAd the VA court forwarded the info, Cho would have been flagged as a disqualified person.
This law changes voluntary state forwarding, to mandatory forwarding.