Posted on 12/18/2007 11:12:12 AM PST by Locomotive Breath
By Tamara Gibbs
DURHAM -- In a filing Tuesday in Federal Court, unindicted Duke Lacrosse players are suing Duke University, the City of Durham, Duke University professors, Mike Nifong and the DNA lab involved in the case.
The suit also names doctors and nurses who treated the alleged victim the night she claimed she'd been raped at a party. The players are also suing City Manager Patrick Baker and former Durham Police Chief Stephen Chalmers. As part of the investigation, the unindicted players had to give up DNA samples and were named in the school paper.
In the 404-page lawsuit, the players say that Duke University, the City of Durham and the other defendants were part of a "conspiracy to railroad 47 Duke University students" based on "the transparently false claim of rape, sexual offense, and kidnapping made by a clinically unreliable accuser." Also in the lawsuit, the players say that the accuser's claim was "taken virtually from her lips and fashioned into a weapon in the hands of those who would leverage outrage."
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Issue addressed in 293 & 294.
This is a link to my original post on this thread. #172
Please read it if you have time. I think covers fairly well what I've been saying all along.
No, and it's obvious you did not bother to inform yourself with the source I provided in #293. Your ignorance about this case is either a choice or a pretense, in my opinion.
Please read it if you have time. I think covers fairly well what I've been saying all along.
It doesn't cover your multiple claims that there were peripheral players named in the suit who believed the accuser's story. The honorable thing to do is to either back up your claim, or retract it.
Or do you just not care whether you write truthful things or not?
Actually, Ken, my #172 was based on this article that was posted for discussion. If you’ll read it it says they were suing just about everybody in the county. (Maybe not the dog warden....)
I’ve agreed from the beginning on protecting any legal rights that they have.
I’ve said I could less whether the whole pack of them score any outrage points, because the players’ risky behavior is responsible for setting themselves up, and Duke’s liberalism is nothing I’ll cheer for.
Now, do I really need to read your link to arrive at those conclusions, or can I get there simply by reading this article?
The info in 293 was from the player’s perspective. It involves a nurse. From what we know of the stripper’s behavior, that nurse could easily claim that she DID see all kinds of signs of intercourse....rough, mild, wild, you name it.
So, if the players’ claim is “she was having sex with all kinds of folks before she ever got to us,” then it’s a little odd to argue with a nurse who said she saw signs of sex.
Yep.
If there were a loser pays system, these guys wouldn't even consider this suit against the University. I suspect they really don't have a good case and they are fishing for a large nuisance value settlement. If they can harrass the defendant by the use of endless depositions and endless subpoenas, maybe they can force the University into crying uncle.
Shame on you for enabling that left-wing, racist cesspool.
Suing them is not going to solve that problem.
You see, PM, some people got Nifonged, and it justifiably caused outrage among us right-thinking folks in America.
Therefore...in some tremendous leap...we must abdicate all our principles about tort reform because some athletes decided it would be fun to have a striper/ho at their “team” party.
Dinchaknow — the point is “gotcha” with the liberals.
When I was growing up (in the last century) if our "team" had a stripper/ho party, everyone on that team would have been kicked off the team and the parties in charge would have been kicked out of school. These guys brought shame and ridicule on the team and on the Duke Sports program by engaging in dangerous and stupid behavior.
Now they think they can hit the jackpot if they hire some fancy lawyers to sue the University. Hell, the University ought to sue them. The Duke LaCrosse team is going to be forever tainted because these guys were so stupid as to hire stippers and ho's for their team party.
If stupidity were a crime, these guys would get the death penalty.
Why are refusing to back up your claim that the peripheral players in the suit believed the accuser? Were you lying there, chaplain?
I've agreed from the beginning on protecting any legal rights that they have.
But you trash the one opportunity to get to the bottom of the lies and corruption in the case. You are siding with the lefties here, pal.
I've said I could less whether the whole pack of them score any outrage points, because the players' risky behavior is responsible for setting themselves up, and Duke's liberalism is nothing I'll cheer for.
You sure are doing your best to run interference for them.
Now, do I really need to read your link to arrive at those conclusions, or can I get there simply by reading this article?
The link was relevant to what follows in your post, not the above points. Your attempt to divert is transparent.
The info in 293 was from the player's perspective. It involves a nurse. From what we know of the stripper's behavior, that nurse could easily claim that she DID see all kinds of signs of intercourse....rough, mild, wild, you name it.
She could CLAIM anything. The fact is NC AG Roy Cooper flat out said there was no medical evidence to support the accuser. Nifong lied on mutiple occasions about findings of blunt force trauma consistent with rape. This nurse was to be his key medical witness. Once again, you enable a liar. What's that make you?
I hope CourtTV carries the trial live, assuming this ever sees the inside of a court room.
Points for honesty. It's refreshing to see that on this thread.
If there were a loser pays system, these guys wouldn't even consider this suit against the University. I suspect they really don't have a good case and they are fishing for a large nuisance value settlement. If they can harrass the defendant by the use of endless depositions and endless subpoenas, maybe they can force the University into crying uncle.
Have you read the complaint, and if so, how much of it? If I'm not mistaken, you have been asked this, but have not responded.
Suing them is not going to solve that problem.
Doesn't change the fact that you are enabling left-wing racist corruption.
Complaints generally consist of a series of unsubstantiated allegations that are intended to do nothing more than to state a cause of action.
You can say anything in a complaint. It doesn't make it true.
The fact is these boys brought shame upon their school and their team and their families by hiring a stripper/ho to perform sex acts as part of a "TEAM PARTY".
They should have all been kicked off the team at a minimum and probably should have been expelled from the University for bringing shame to the school and the team.
There used to be morals clauses for sports scholarships. I don't know if they still have them, but if they did, these guys violated it.
No I don't feel the least bit of sympathy for these guys. I do feel a bit of sympathy for the guys who were indicted, but these (unindicted) guys deserve to suffer some consequence for their actions.
Maybe, if someone crys a river for them, they should be compensated a dollar each.
Maybe two.
No I don't feel the least bit of sympathy for these guys.
Yes I know, and your feelings are such that you apparently have no shame in enabling left-wing, racist corruption.
No. Complaints are, as I said, nothing more than a statement of unsubstantiated allegations. You can say ANYTHING in a complaint. It doesn't make it true.
Yes I know, and your feelings are such that you apparently have no shame in enabling left-wing, racist corruption.
That is the kind of unsubstantiated crap that you see in Civil Complaints all the time. You've just proven my point.
Whoa! From an earlier exchange:
ME: So you're willing to trash an effort to expose and punish wrongful actions on the part of Duke and Durham because YOU think Americans are sue happy, and that these guys are greedy little bastards.
YOU: Yep.
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That was your yep, was it not? If you trash an effort to expose and punish wrongdoers, you are enabling the wrongdoers to get away with their wrongdoing. So you already substantiated my point.
Yep.If you trash an effort to expose and punish wrongdoers, you are enabling the wrongdoers to get away with their wrongdoing.
The team members were wrongdoers. They breached a trust and had a TEAM party that included hookers and strippers. It cost their coach his job. It permanently destroyed the reputation of a nationally ranked sports team.
Are you going to trash my efforts to expose and punish these wrongdoers? If so then YOU are enabling these wrongdoers to get away with their wrongdoing. And not only that, you want to reward them by making them rich off their folly.
The sword cuts both ways, my friend.
The real crime here is that the Bush administration will not open up a Federal investigaion of the denial of basic civil rights by a city in collusion with a university. What else is there for them to do except engage a civil suit against culpable individuals?
If Jena 6 and Michael Vick get a Federal investigation , then surely this Frame-up travesty does too. Curse that RINO Elizabeth Dole and her feckless in-state political pandering!!
There is nothing you can expose that has not already been covered in minute detail many times over in the drive by media. I would say it is the most discussed, well-documented stripper party in history. Please stop being disingenuous.
If so then YOU are enabling these wrongdoers to get away with their wrongdoing.
Liar. They already received punishment well beyond what is reasonable for their wrongdoing - which was hiring a stripper and underage drinking.
And not only that, you want to reward them by making them rich off their folly.
Victims of governmental and institutional malfeasance deserve compensation, and the perps deserve punishment. You're doing your best to let the perps get away with it.
The sword cuts both ways, my friend.
Unlike the left-wing racists at Duke and Durham, the laxers have been exposed and punished. Unlike you, I won't put on the knee pads for wrongful acts by left-wing racists.
When insulting a fellow freeper, it is common courtesy and forum rules to ping that person to your post.
Insult seems to be the weapon of choice here on this thread.
But when you run out of ammuntion, all you can do is throw rocks.
Cest la vie.
The fact that you would trivialize that by suggesting they are "greedy", is beyond contempt.
Scorched earth.
Let ‘er rip!
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