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Mormons Aren't Christians (Columnist also calls Luther a heretic)
Dallas Morning News ^
| 12/16/07
| Rod Dreher
Posted on 12/16/2007 11:15:52 PM PST by Mobile Vulgus
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Right on Rod!!
To: Mobile Vulgus
Mormons believe that Jesus was the divine son of God who died and was resurrected, and therefore they are Christians, regardless of any other doctrinal differences. To say otherwise, in my opinion, is just playing with words. Unitarians believe that Jesus was an inspired prophet of God, but not himself divine, so Unitarians are not Christians. We’ve had Unitarian Presidents and the country did OK. I’m quite sure we’ll do alright with a Mormon President, if they’re otherwise well qualified.
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posted on
12/16/2007 11:24:27 PM PST
by
devere
To: devere
You obviously didn’t bother to read the article. Shame.
To: devere; Mobile Vulgus
Dreher is all over the place in this article, trying to cover all his bases.
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posted on
12/16/2007 11:26:42 PM PST
by
Utah Girl
To: Mobile Vulgus
Mitt believes that his wife cannot rise to heaven unless he, Mitt, calls her up by her secret name that only he and she knows.
I’m not voting for a person who believes women are inferior before god.
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posted on
12/16/2007 11:29:38 PM PST
by
donna
(Obama on cocaine: "Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it.")
To: Mobile Vulgus
I read it and disagreed with it. Frankly I’m sick of the subject, but wished to express my opinion at least once. The U.S. constitution says very clearly there will be no religious test for federal office, but many so-called conservatives don’t seem to take that document very seriously, or so it seems to me.
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posted on
12/16/2007 11:30:09 PM PST
by
devere
To: Mobile Vulgus
- Of course, by any criteria agreed upon by Christian denominations of nearly every stripe, Mormons aren't Christians. If anyone doesn't know what I mean, read this book:
Mere Christianity.
- I have no problem voting for a Mormon, or for that matter, an atheist, depending on his character and conservative philosophy.
- Mrs. Chandler disagrees with #2.
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posted on
12/16/2007 11:30:42 PM PST
by
Jeff Chandler
("Liberals want to save the world for the children they aren't having." -Mark Steyn)
To: devere
no religious test for federal office That means the government can't test - voters can and should.
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posted on
12/16/2007 11:31:44 PM PST
by
donna
(Obama on cocaine: "Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it.")
To: Mobile Vulgus
But the crooked timber of humanity is frail indeed. If God doesn't exist, then by what standard do we decide right from wrong?
By the same standards we've always used to decide right from wrong - human devised standards which came about to allow human societies to form and function without imploding. It's likely that we can even do a better job of devising such standards than the iron-age desert dwellers who created the major religions of the West.
To: devere
Being a “Christian” has had a particular meaning for 2000 years. It does not mean whatever anyone wants it to mean.
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posted on
12/16/2007 11:33:43 PM PST
by
Jeff Chandler
("Liberals want to save the world for the children they aren't having." -Mark Steyn)
To: donna
(Obama on cocaine: "Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it.")I am ignorant. What is "blow"?
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posted on
12/16/2007 11:34:59 PM PST
by
Jeff Chandler
("Liberals want to save the world for the children they aren't having." -Mark Steyn)
To: AnotherUnixGeek
It's likely that we can even do a better job of devising such standards than the iron-age desert dwellers who created the major religions of the West.Yeah, screw the tree trunk. We can build our own branches.
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posted on
12/16/2007 11:36:32 PM PST
by
Jeff Chandler
("Liberals want to save the world for the children they aren't having." -Mark Steyn)
To: donna
That means the government can't test - voters can and should. There's at least one "constitutional scholar" on every thread about Mormons who trots that out.
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posted on
12/16/2007 11:38:07 PM PST
by
Graybeard58
( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
To: Jeff Chandler
[What is “blow”?]
Cocaine hydrochloride—cocaine in powdered form.
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posted on
12/16/2007 11:39:13 PM PST
by
Brad from Tennessee
("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
To: donna
Mitt believes that his wife cannot rise to heaven unless he, Mitt, calls her up by her secret name that only he and she knows.Im not voting for a person who believes women are inferior before god.
You seem to have omitted the other half - that he believes if he doesn't seek her out and reunite with her, he won't gain exaltation either. They go as a team or not at all. Hardly makes women inferior.
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posted on
12/16/2007 11:40:01 PM PST
by
Antonello
(Oh my God, don't shoot the banana!)
To: AnotherUnixGeek
oh yes those stupid Jews again...
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posted on
12/16/2007 11:40:29 PM PST
by
ari-freedom
(Mitt Romney. He may be a liberal but he's the prettiest.)
To: Jeff Chandler
I remember picking up Mere Christianity and being very excited to read it, because it was advertised as a thinking-person’s guide to the faith. Wow, was I disappointed. Lewis tried (pathetically) to prove by reason and evidence what can only be “proved” — or rather, experienced — by faith.
To wit: his assertion that Jesus was either a madman or was the Son of God he claimed to be; since he obviously wasn’t a madman, he must have been the Son of God. When secular liberals hear such laughable reasoning, they immediately think there’s nothing Christianity has to offer, and they don’t bother trying to enter into relationship with God, which should be the central point.
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posted on
12/16/2007 11:40:37 PM PST
by
BackInBlack
("The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice.")
To: devere
define "Christian"???....a Christian to me is "Christ" centered....Mormons are not Christ centered..they are Joseph Smith and their temples' centered....
moot point since it doesn't matter what religion a person is..that is their business....just as long as you don't claim to be something you are not...
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posted on
12/16/2007 11:41:09 PM PST
by
cherry
To: devere
Mormons believe that Jesus was the divine son of God who died and was resurrected, and therefore they are Christians, regardless of any other doctrinal differences. To say otherwise, in my opinion, is just playing with words. There is a major chasm between Mormonism and historic Christianity. Its much more than playing with words. They are in fact irreconcilable theologically and doctrinally. Each considers the other heresy and apostasy. They both can not be Christian. Note that I am not saying which one I think is correct.
Im quite sure well do alright with a Mormon President, if theyre otherwise well qualified.
I quite agree. Unfortunately Mitt is a RINO. No votes for him, regardless of his religion.
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posted on
12/16/2007 11:41:41 PM PST
by
Starwolf
To: devere
Mormons themselves believe other Christians have rejected the core faith. As such, they do not define the “core faith” the same way that other Christians do, and therefore do not share this core faith. Ergo, they’re not Christians in any meaningful sense of the word.
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posted on
12/16/2007 11:42:28 PM PST
by
BackInBlack
("The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice.")
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