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(Tammy) Baldwin (D, WI) puts Cheney Ouster on the Table
Madison.com ^ | December 15, 2007 | John Nichols

Posted on 12/16/2007 4:10:52 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin

U.S. Rep. Tammy Baldwin, D-Madison, and two other senior members of the House Judiciary Committee have called for the immediate opening of impeachment hearings for Vice President Richard Cheney.

Baldwin and fellow Democrats Robert Wexler of Florida and Luis Gutierrez of Illinois on Friday distributed a statement, "A Case for Hearings," that declares, "The issues at hand are too serious to ignore, including credible allegations of abuse of power that if proven may well constitute high crimes and misdemeanors under our Constitution. The charges against Vice President Cheney relate to his deceptive actions leading up to the Iraq war, the revelation of the identity of a covert agent for political retaliation, and the illegal wiretapping of American citizens."

In particular, the Judiciary Committee members cite the recent revelation by former White House press secretary Scott McClellan that the vice president and his staff purposefully gave him false information about the outing of Valerie Plame Wilson as a covert agent as part of a White House campaign to discredit her husband, former Ambassador Joe Wilson.

On the basis of McClellan's statements, Baldwin, Wexler and Gutierrez say, "it is even more important for Congress to investigate what may have been an intentional obstruction of justice." The three House members argue that "Congress should call Mr. McClellan to testify about what he described as being asked to 'unknowingly (pass) along false information.' "

Adding to the sense of urgency, the members argue that "recent revelations have shown that the administration including Vice President Cheney may have again manipulated and exaggerated evidence about weapons of mass destruction -- this time about Iran's nuclear capabilities."

Although Baldwin, Wexler and Gutierrez are close to Judiciary Committee Chair John Conyers, getting the Michigan Democrat to open hearings on impeachment will not necessarily be easy. Though Conyers was a leader in suggesting during the last Congress that both President Bush and Vice President Cheney had committed impeachable offenses, he has been under pressure from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., to keep constitutional remedies for executive excesses "off the table" in this Congress.

It is notable, however, that Baldwin maintains warm relations with Pelosi and that Wexler, a veteran member of the Judiciary Committee, has historically had an amiable and effective working relationship with Conyers. There is no question that Conyers, who voted to keep open the impeachment debate on Nov. 7, has been looking for a way to explore the charges against Cheney.

The move by three of his key allies on the committee may provide the chairman with the opening he seeks, although it is likely he will need to hear from more committee members before making any kind of break with Pelosi -- or perhaps convincing her that holding hearings on Cheney's high crimes and misdemeanors is different from putting a Bush impeachment move on the table.

Pressure point

The most important immediate development, however, may well be the assertion of an "ask" for supporters of impeachment. Pulled in many directions in recent months, campaigners for presidential and vice presidential accountability have focused their attention on supporting a House proposal by Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich, a candidate for the Democratic presidential nod, to impeach Cheney. When Kucinich forced consideration of his resolution on Nov. 7, Pelosi and her allies used procedural moves to get it sent to the Judiciary Committee for consideration. Pelosi's hope was that the proposal would disappear into the committee's files.

The call for hearings by Baldwin, Wexler and Gutierrez puts impeachment on the table, at least as far as activists are concerned, creating a pressure point that can serve as a reply when House Democrats who are critical of Bush but cautious about impeachment ask: "What do you want me to do?" The answer can now be: "Back the call for Judiciary Committee hearings on whether to impeach Dick Cheney?"

Baldwin, Wexler and Gutierrez wrote that "Some of us were in Congress during the impeachment hearings of President Clinton. We spent a year and a half listening to testimony about President Clinton's personal relations. This must not be the model for impeachment inquires."

They argued that "a Democratic Congress can show that it takes its constitutional authority seriously and hold a sober investigation, which will stand in stark contrast to the kangaroo court convened by Republicans for President Clinton. In fact, the worst legacy of the Clinton impeachment -- where the GOP pursued trumped up and insignificant allegations -- would be that it discourages future Congresses from examining credible and significant allegations of a constitutional nature when they arise."

The three House members said that the charges against Cheney are not personal: "They go to the core of the actions of this administration, and deserve consideration in a way the Clinton scandal never did."

They cited a Nov. 13 poll by the American Research Group which reported that 70 percent of voters said that Cheney has abused his powers and 43 percent said that he should be removed from office immediately.

"The American people understand the magnitude of what has been done and what is at stake if we fail to act," the trio said. "It is time for Congress to catch up."

Arguing that hearings need not distract Congress, Baldwin, Wexler and Gutierrez note that the focus is on Cheney for a reason: "These hearings involve the possible impeachment of the vice president -- not our commander in chief -- and the resulting impact on the nation's business and attention would be significantly less than the Clinton presidential impeachment hearings."

The trio also suggests that the hearings are necessary if Congress is to restore its position in the constitutionally defined system of checks and balances.

"Holding hearings would put the evidence on the table, and the evidence -- not politics -- should determine the outcome," the Judiciary Committee members explain. "Even if the hearings do not lead to removal from office, putting these grievous abuses on the record is important for the sake of history. For an administration that has consistently skirted the Constitution and asserted that it is above the law, it is imperative for Congress to make clear that we do not accept this dangerous precedent. Our Founding Fathers provided Congress the power of impeachment for just this reason, and we must now at least consider using it."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 110th; aidandcomfort; baldwin; moonbats; terrorsupporters; traitors
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Wait, you haven’t heard? According to the leftosphere, 70% of Americans want Cheney impeached!

Part of me wants them to start it. It’d be a sure way the dems stay out of the WH in 2008.


21 posted on 12/16/2007 4:35:56 PM PST by Theresawithanh (This is my tagline. FRED!!!!!!)
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To: Past Your Eyes

oh my


22 posted on 12/16/2007 4:37:04 PM PST by digger48
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

If “high crimes and misdemeanors’ are what she is worried about, then she ought to clean her own house first from intel leaks and the aid and comfort the dems are giving to the enemy.


23 posted on 12/16/2007 4:37:42 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Sounds to me like Baldwin, Wexler and Gutierrez got some campaign contributions from al Qaeda.


24 posted on 12/16/2007 4:38:01 PM PST by mkjessup (Hunter-Bolton '08 !! Patriots who will settle for nothing less than *Victory* in the War on Terror!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The idea that you would impeach a VP for things done during this administration but not the president shows how out of it these people are. Certainly Agnew could have been impeached for taking bribes as a MD Govenor without it impacting the President. But a VP can basically do nothing. Loons.


25 posted on 12/16/2007 4:47:06 PM PST by JLS
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

A ship load of B.S. These dimocrats can’t find their rear end with both hands so they spend their time spinning fantasies.


26 posted on 12/16/2007 4:56:28 PM PST by hgro (Jerry Riversd)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
The only person who discredits Joe Wilson is Joe Wilson.

I'm very surprised that Islamic ass kisser John Conyers (AhyphenA-Detroit) isn't on this band wagon.

27 posted on 12/16/2007 5:01:06 PM PST by RushLake (Democrats/MSM have never met a terrorist they didn't like.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

They should go for it. I’d love to see them blunder through this in an election year.


28 posted on 12/16/2007 5:02:01 PM PST by ShandaLear (Extremists always meet each other full circle.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

What fools they are.


29 posted on 12/16/2007 5:07:24 PM PST by Gator113 (My short list..Fred, Hunter, Romney.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Bring it, you butch bitch Baldwin.


30 posted on 12/16/2007 5:23:03 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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Wexler, Gutierrez and Baldwin: well there’s a representative group for you. A snapshot of what’s wrong with the Democrat party.
31 posted on 12/16/2007 5:26:05 PM PST by Godwin1
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Step away from the bong, Tammy. It’s time to put on those Earth shoes and head for the Weatherman Alumni fondue dinner.


32 posted on 12/16/2007 5:49:55 PM PST by MadJack ("Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet." (Afghan proverb))
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To: ridesthemiles

No kidding. But you already know how I feel about these morons. ;)


33 posted on 12/16/2007 6:02:01 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Certifiable idiots...God help us if the Dummies win next year...


34 posted on 12/16/2007 6:02:58 PM PST by GRRRRR (Merry Christmas to US All...)
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To: GRRRRR

Democrats scare me, Ms. Edwards!


35 posted on 12/16/2007 6:04:53 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I think it may be time to bring a few of these worthless idiots up on charges of Treason.
Impeach Cheney? Only makes sense if they also intend to impeach Bush, and don’t want to take a chance on Cheney taking the Oval Office.
That little commie mouseketeer, Dennis the Menace, has kept this silliness stirred up for months. I’m sorry he’s from Ohio. Generally, we’re a bit more sensible than he is.


36 posted on 12/16/2007 7:09:06 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Desperate, silly little small minded people. Wonder what they’ll go when Bush/Cheney leave the White House?


37 posted on 12/16/2007 7:57:14 PM PST by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than any of us will ever fully realize.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
The moonbats are just hilarious. I hope they keep it up.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

38 posted on 12/16/2007 7:59:13 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: sausageseller

A moonbat dyke from Madison.


39 posted on 12/16/2007 8:08:34 PM PST by mimaw
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To: ridesthemiles

About the only good think I know of that has ever come from Madison, WI are the Madison Scouts of 1988 (the last year they were DCI World Champions).

These idiots don’t do anything to make me feel better about the place...


40 posted on 12/16/2007 8:17:20 PM PST by TheBattman (LORD God, please help us to elect a Godly and patriotic man for President in 08, Amen.)
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