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Watching A Treasury Wreck (Tom McClintock: Actual Budget Deficit Is $18 Billion Alert)
Citizens For The California Republic ^ | 12/13/2007 | Tom McClintock

Posted on 12/13/2007 11:27:49 AM PST by goldstategop

According to news reports yesterday, behind closed doors the Department of Finance is privately admitting to a $14 billion shortfall between this and the budget year. Assuming that this shortfall occurs AFTER blowing through the $4 billion reserve, that makes the actual operating deficit $18 billion. (If that’s a surprise, read my blog of November 15th).

The good news is that the state’s cash position slightly improved in November. According to the Controller’s monthly report, actual revenue growth has increased 2.3 percent for the first five months of the fiscal year compared to one year ago. (Last month year-to-date growth was just 0.6 percent).

The problem is not a revenue shortfall. Every year of the Schwarzenegger Administration, state government has set a new record for the portion of people’s earnings it consumes. While population and inflation have increased 20 percent during the Schwarzenegger years, revenues have increased 29 percent (despite the housing crunch). The problem is that spending has increased 33 percent.

If these numbers sound vaguely familiar, they should. During the five years of the Davis Administration, population and inflation increased 23 percent, revenues increased 31 percent and spending increased 35 percent.

That’s how you wreck a state’s finances. It works every time.

12-13-2007


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: California
KEYWORDS: budgetcrisis; california; carepublic; economy; mcclintock; tommclintock; treasurywreck
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Quite simply put, California's budget crisis can be traced back to spending more than the combined growth of population and revenue. Tom McClintock now thinks the size of the state budget deficit has been underestimated again. The true size of California's budget shortfall is now $18 billion dollars. Talk about a mushrooming Treasury Wreck ahead.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

1 posted on 12/13/2007 11:27:52 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

I supported McClintock during the recall. The voters went for glitz over substance. Those who sow the wind, reap the whirlwind...


2 posted on 12/13/2007 11:29:53 AM PST by karnage
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To: goldstategop

Ah, but the Orange County RINO mafia didn’t think Tom was “electable.” We’d have never had this problem if they didn’t back Ahrnold. Tom is my State Senator, and I hope our Governor. Some day soon. Maybe after we recall Ahrnold.


3 posted on 12/13/2007 11:34:45 AM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: karnage

I did too, but saw the writing on the wall and pulled up stakes for New Hampshire, where my wife and I were the two deciding votes in a motion to cut $1 million from our new home town’s budget.


4 posted on 12/13/2007 11:35:01 AM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: goldstategop

but arnold wanted to spend on worthy proven causes such as global warming and embryonic stem cell research /s


5 posted on 12/13/2007 11:35:24 AM PST by ari-freedom (Mitt Romney. He may be a liberal but he's the prettiest.)
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To: ari-freedom
The problem is California's budget is on auto-pilot, particularly education. Legislators cannot make spending cuts in bad times. Programs receive a guaranteed level of funding regardless of how the economy performs. There is no incentive to budget responsibly. That's how California gets into fiscal trouble - every time.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

6 posted on 12/13/2007 11:38:17 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: RKV

Nobody talks about Bill Simon any more. He has dropped out of politics and vanished from sight.

Tom McClintock is a good man. So was Bill Simon. He only lost by a few percent, in spite of the dirty tricks of California judges, California media, and the betrayal by the Republican party.

If he had won, it would have been a whole different ball game. But they used the absence of a primary to shove Arnold down our throats, and now we are paying the price in a destroyed state and a destroyed party.

Good work, Bush, Rove and Parsky. You really did it. You got what you wanted.


8 posted on 12/13/2007 11:39:33 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: goldstategop

All we did by voting the shlep in, was kick the can down the road and watch as the boil doubled in size.

Now, how can we claim fiscal responsiblity is a perview of the right?

Schwarzenegger could have done the right thing. He promised to when he ran. Insread he became Davis II.

Thanks California R.P. leadership. Thanks Pete Wilson. You folks are swell... if party suicide is the goal.


9 posted on 12/13/2007 11:41:51 AM PST by DoughtyOne (California, where the death penalty is reserved for wholesome values. SB 777)
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To: DoughtyOne
Arnold was a liberal all along. In a way, I see this as good news. ArnoldCare is certainly DOA and the Global Warming goals are going to be very difficult to meet in a recession. That's what I think is happening in California right now. Things will get worse before they get better.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

10 posted on 12/13/2007 11:44:16 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Alaska has a surplus this year as well as $40 billion laying around doing nothing. What does California have for collateral to justify a loan?


11 posted on 12/13/2007 11:44:35 AM PST by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
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California has borrowed billions of dollars. The motto of state voters seems to be live for the present and the heck with tomorrow. Its like a bad hangover party and the pain is only beginning to be felt.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

12 posted on 12/13/2007 11:46:23 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: RightWhale

State property. Land.


13 posted on 12/13/2007 11:46:40 AM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: RKV

Alaska already has 300,000 square miles of land it can’t use. Anything else?


14 posted on 12/13/2007 11:48:36 AM PST by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
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To: RightWhale

You are kidding me aren’t you? Alaska in the winter? I have too many friends who work in the oil patch up there who vacation in Hawaii or California in the winter just to get out of the snow to think otherwise.


15 posted on 12/13/2007 11:51:21 AM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: RKV

It’s Alaska here, and it’s winter here, now. And there’s $40 billion here just looking for a golden opportunity. Is that opportunity in California? Doesn’t appear so.


16 posted on 12/13/2007 11:55:50 AM PST by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
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To: RightWhale

Keep your money. We can get just as good a deal elsewhere.


17 posted on 12/13/2007 11:56:56 AM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: RightWhale

And you’re still up to your ass in snow. Enjoy it. I think I’ll go for a walk by the beach in shorts now. Bye.


18 posted on 12/13/2007 11:57:39 AM PST by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: goldstategop
Yes... he was.  You're right to point that out.  During the campaign he did address the need to get our fiscal house in order.  I defended some of his early moves to stabalize things.  I had hoped some of the jackasses that helped him into office, would advise him regarding fiscal policy.  Pete seems to have bolted the day after the election.  Schwarzenegger abandoned all pretense of fiscal responsability.  And you're certainly welcome to state, I told you so.  When polls just days away from election show a guy you would like to win still stuck at 10 to 15 percent, you vote for the guy you think might turn out to be better than you thought.  At least that's the way I saw it.

Tell you what, I've sworn off voting for the Schwarzeneggers of the world.  He would have won without my vote, but I will never again vote for a RINO.  And if this nation goes down the tube, it's not going to as a result of my voting for people who helped do it.  Loft a good candidate I can vote for, or count me out.  The one thing about voting for McClintock, is that at least a person could say I didn't vote for the guy who has brought us tens of billions of dollars more debt.

Your logic as it relates to ArnoldCare and Global Warming seems sound.  With these idiots one never knows.

I'm not convinced we're in a recession, although we probably are slipping in that direction, but I wouldn't state that I definately don't think one will materialize either.

What's Arnie going to do when revenues tank seriously, and he can't keep his house of cards afloat?  Make more movies?
19 posted on 12/13/2007 11:59:05 AM PST by DoughtyOne (California, where the death penalty is reserved for wholesome values. SB 777)
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To: goldstategop

There is a simple solution to many of California’s problems: replacing minor criminal and many civil sanctions with tax-like civil fines.

That is, the Governor and State Legislature could create a new State office with an administrator. This office would issue citations, somewhat like traffic tickets, but without any other penalty, *in place of* minor criminal and civil violations.

Instead of policemen issuing tickets for petty offenses, they instead issue what amounts to a tax fine payable directly to the State. There is no appeal through the courts, only directly to the State administrator.

Say some “youths” are caught spray paint vandalizing a wall. They can be “taxed” say $500 each. If they or their parents have the ability to pay, then they pay cash. Otherwise it stays on their record as owed to the State when and if they ever get a job.

Now these fines can be pretty hefty. A first time DUI that doesn’t involve an accident could cost $20,000; but that would be the sole penalty. In that case, $20k would hurt like blazes, but a lot of people could afford it. And they sure as heck wouldn’t DUI again.

And because California has tens of thousands of otherwise harmless DUIs every year, it starts to add up to some real money, not just savings, but income. Instead of the State having to pay a LOT of money to incarcerate them, give them a penalty that MEANS something to them, but otherwise doesn’t ruin their life for one instance of bad judgment.

For second offense or if an accident is involved, they go to jail just like before.

If you add up literally hundreds of offenses, both criminal and civil, that could be replaced by fines, that alone might solve most of California’s budget woes for the foreseeable future. Instead of paying money to punish such people, the public should make a profit from them.


20 posted on 12/13/2007 11:59:10 AM PST by Popocatapetl
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