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Study says humans not heating up the planet
One News Now ^ | December 11, 2007 | Jim Brown

Posted on 12/11/2007 6:46:22 AM PST by Between the Lines

A new peer-reviewed study disputes the claim of former Vice President Al Gore and other green activists that global warming is caused by human activity and constitutes a "planetary emergency."

The study -- conducted by climate scientists at the University of Rochester, the University of Alabama, and the University of Virginia -- finds that atmospheric warming patterns, or "fingerprints," over the last 30 years are not caused by greenhouse gas emissions. The report is published in the December issue of the International Journal of Climatology. Results from the study greatly contradict the findings of the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

Dr. S. Fred Singer, professor emeritus of environmental science at the University of Virginia -- and president of the Science and Environmental Policy Project -- says he is "fairly" sure that the current warming trend is due to changes in the activities of the sun. "The sun is constantly active, emitting particle streams that carry magnetic fields; and they in turn have an influence on the climate of the earth," he says.

Singer says he and other global warming skeptics have grown accustomed to claims that they are beholden to the oil and gas industry. "Of course that's not only untrue, but it's completely immaterial," says Singer. "In other words, we are using the data that is furnished by the IPCC. They are published, we use only published work. What we are basically doing is to make a comparison of model results and observations."

The report concludes that carbon dioxide is not a pollutant and therefore "attempts to control CO2 emissions are ineffective and pointless -- but very costly."


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To: elfman2
I still think, though, that when voters understand that the “cure” for alleged anthropogenic global warming is for them to get poorer,....

...by filling Al Gore's pockets.

41 posted on 12/11/2007 7:31:42 AM PST by Wil H
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To: SomeReasonableDude
>Once all the B.S. is taken out, science is science

Yes, but remember
the Nazis and their "science?"
Eventually

the 'ice universe,'
'race wills' and the other stuff
was seen as BS,

but how much damage
did the crazy thinking cause
the entire planet?
42 posted on 12/11/2007 7:33:44 AM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: Between the Lines

btt


43 posted on 12/11/2007 7:49:22 AM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: ga medic

As of November 2007, the CO2 concentration in Earth’s atmosphere was about 0.0384% by volume, or 384 ppmv.

The OSHA, NIOSH, and ACGIH occupational exposure standards are 0.5% CO2 averaged over a 40 hour week, 3% average for a short-term (15 minute) exposure, and 4% as the maximum instantaneous limit considered immediately dangerous to life and health.

We need to keep an eye on atmospheric CO2, but at the moment it seems we’re not in immediate danger of any ill effects.


44 posted on 12/11/2007 7:52:51 AM PST by devere
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To: devere

http://www.ciesin.org/docs/003-074/003-074.html

The greenhouse effect, despite all the controversy that surrounds the term, is actually one of the most well-established theories in atmospheric science. For example, with its dense CO2 atmosphere, Venus has temperatures near 700 K at its surface. Mars, with its very thin CO2 atmosphere, has temperatures of only 220 K. The primary explanation of the current Venus “runaway greenhouse” and the frigid Martian surface has long been quite clear and straightforward: the greenhouse effect (3) . The greenhouse effect works because some gases and particles in an atmosphere preferentially allow sunlight to filter through to the surface of the planet relative to the amount of radiant infrared energy that the atmosphere allows to escape back up to space. The greater the concentration of “greenhouse” material in the atmosphere (Fig. 1) (4), the less infrared energy that can escape. Therefore, increasing the amount of greenhouse gases increases the planet’s surface temperature by increasing the amount of heat that is trapped in the lowest part of the atmosphere. What is controversial about the greenhouse effect is exactly how much Earth’s surface temperature will rise given a certain increase in a trace greenhouse gas such as CO2.”

There are legitimate and well founded arguments against the theory of global warming, and whether humans are responsible. There is not a legitimate argument over whether CO2 in excessive levels in the atmosphere can be very harmful. Co2 absorbs energy in the form of heat, and that is a fact that has been scientifically proven, and can easily be scientifically recreated.


45 posted on 12/11/2007 7:56:08 AM PST by ga medic
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To: Between the Lines
"attempts to control CO2 emissions are ineffective and pointless -- but very costly." ---very profitable.

One man's bill is another man's check.

46 posted on 12/11/2007 7:59:09 AM PST by existtoexcel
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To: Paladin2
According to this book (page 427) we are still "very much in an ice age" and permanent ice at both poles may be "unique in earth's history."

 

47 posted on 12/11/2007 8:03:52 AM PST by itsamelman (Announcing your plans is a good way to hear God laugh. - - Al Swearengen)
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To: devere

Look, I am not a big global warming alarmist. But there is a difference between questioning the alarmism of global warming, and making comments that Co2 isn’t dangerous because plants need it. Comments like that come from a complete lack of understanding on the issue.


48 posted on 12/11/2007 8:12:54 AM PST by ga medic
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To: MrB

Go for sooner rather than later. It had a huge impact on my first two. Of course they told the other 3, which eliminated the effect.


49 posted on 12/11/2007 8:15:30 AM PST by ga medic
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To: Between the Lines
Well you heard Algore’s peace prize hoax speech the other day. He compared those of us who do not believe in the global warming hoax to be even with those who appeased the Nazi’s. So now we are Nazi appeasers.
50 posted on 12/11/2007 8:16:04 AM PST by RetiredArmy (Better prepare, come Nov 08, we have a Marxist Commissar President and Marxist Congress.)
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To: Theo
Plants don’t consider CO2 a “pollutant.”

Apparently neither does the EPA. There is a new restoration process which allows cleaning everything from old paintings and books to brickwork and fire damaged wood. It uses no abrasive, surfactant, or even water. The process uses a high velocity flow of CO2 to propel pelletized dry ice (solid CO2) against the surface to be cleaned. The sudden drop in temperature causes any grime or dirt adhering to the surface to "pop" loose and the flow of gas flushes it away leaving the surface clean and dry.

This process has become commonplace and even manufacture of the equipment used to perform this restoration work has become big business. The consequence of all this is we are now using CO2 literally by the ton as a cleaning agent!

Regards,
GtG

PS All soda and most beer is "artificially" carbonated with CO2, has ANYONE even suggested that we stop doing that?

51 posted on 12/11/2007 8:20:34 AM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Between the Lines
The report is published in the December issue of the International Journal of Climatology. Results from the study greatly contradict the findings of the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

That report is politically incorrect to the Nth degree, and it will no doubt be buried by the media and never seen again outside the libraries of the universities that sponsored it. The man-made global warming hoax has now been so thoroughly ingrained into the gullible public's mind by the left wing media and their liberal politico cronies that I don't think a resurrected Moses speaking from Mount Sinai could successfully debunk it.

I read recently that approximately 20,000 climate experts from many countries have signed a paper that disputes the bogus man-made global warming baloney, and only about 5 thousand scientists from all fields of science, mostly fields which have no relation to climatology, have signed onto the UN paper that accuses humans of destroying the earth's climate balance with man-made greenhouse gas emissions. But of course no amount of actual climate expert testimony matters as long as the MSM and AlGore's hippie-dippy Goraphiles are incessantly ballyhooing the globaloney myth and the public is swallowing it hook, line, and sinker. The facts are that 97% of all greenhouse gas presently in earth's atmosphere is simply water vapor, and of the remaining 3% less than 1/10th of 1% is man-made CO2. If that virtually insignificant percentage of greenhouse gas can drive the earth and humanity into wreck and ruin there is no hope that mankind can survive even if we accepted Algore's globaloney as truth and acted accordingly. But thankfully it is just globaloney and mankind will survive and thrive unless we are stampeded into believing it and approving the anti-American agenda of AlGore and the MSM's Globaloneyists.

Folks, we are being hornswaggled by ALGore and his cadres of Gaiia (sp?) worshipping leftover hippies who hate America and Americans for being relatively rich while some socialist 3rd world nations are poor as owl roost, and even hordes of otherwise credible "experts" have been deceived by the globaloney hoopla. This deception will end up destroying or seriously damaging the US economy like nothing else ever has or could, and we the ordinary American people are bringing down upon ourselves and our nation what I believe to be a deliberately manufactured economic disaster by not seeking out and learning the truth about globaloney, and by not speaking out and voting accordingly. May the one and only true God help us and our great nation to detect and reject the deceit and lies, because AlGore's mind-numbed troops and their false god Gaiia, aka Satan, certainly won't.

52 posted on 12/11/2007 8:22:35 AM PST by epow
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To: P-Marlowe
Now what am I gonna do with all that fertile farm land I just purchased in Manitoba?

Is there a market for farm-raised Polar bears? If there is, you may have bought into a gold plated money machine.

53 posted on 12/11/2007 8:27:01 AM PST by epow
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To: ga medic

The earth is what is referred to in science as a buffered system. If CO2 experiences a sudden rise in concentration it will cause an increase in the rate of reaction with other chemical processes which use it as a reactant. It will bind with organic materials to form plant and animal matter. It will bind with calcium, magnesium, and other metals to form carbonates (limestone, coral etc). The result is a return to the equilibrium level.

This buffered ecosystem is ABSENT on Mars and Venus so they are not analogous models. Why do you bring them up?


54 posted on 12/11/2007 8:34:33 AM PST by BillM
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To: RetiredArmy
Well you heard Algore’s peace prize hoax speech the other day. He compared those of us who do not believe in the global warming hoax to be even with those who appeased the Nazi’s.

Actually, I did not hear this. I would appreciate it if you had a link.

55 posted on 12/11/2007 8:34:43 AM PST by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: Between the Lines
Dr. Fred Singer wrote an article on this in Imprimus this summer. Subsequent research has validated his view the hysterical claims behind global warming are baseless and the solutions proposed to deal with a non-existent problem are expensive, counterproductive and produce little real return benefit.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

56 posted on 12/11/2007 8:37:58 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: sourcery
Great stuff sourcery, thanks for posting it.

But the problem is that 99.9999% of the people won't spend the time and effort it would take to look into and assimilate all that massive amount of data, and will continue to buy into Agore's globaloney myth.

Maybe when they are living in tents and eating out of garbage cans with no electricity for lights or gasoline for their about to be repossesed cars they will come to their senses and realize how badly they were deceived and lied to by mind-numbed AlGorephiles, the MSM, and their own government. I sincerely hope that I am totally wrong about all this, but I'm very much afraid that I'm not.

57 posted on 12/11/2007 8:43:02 AM PST by epow
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To: ga medic
For example, with its dense CO2 atmosphere, Venus has temperatures near 700 K at its surface. Mars, with its very thin CO2 atmosphere, has temperatures of only 220 K. The primary explanation of the current Venus “runaway greenhouse” and the frigid Martian surface has long been quite clear and straightforward: the greenhouse effect

This is actually funny. Venus' atmosphere has 96.5% CO2, Mars' atmosphere has 95.32% CO2. The only difference is Venus' atmospheric pressure is 92 times that of earths and Mars' is 0.007 of earths atmosphere. The "greenhouse effect" would seem to be from atmospheric pressure and not from composition.

And then there is that whole thing about Venus being closer to to sun, but....

58 posted on 12/11/2007 8:50:12 AM PST by Between the Lines (I am very cognizant of my fallibility, sinfulness, and other limitations.)
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To: Between the Lines
Gore reminds me, more and more, of Sathya Sai Baba

Wikipedia: Sathya Sai Baba

59 posted on 12/11/2007 8:54:05 AM PST by syriacus (J. Bolton : "The world has put Iran on notice that it must stop pursuing nuclear weapons." (6/2003))
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To: ConservativeMind
Chuckle. I haven't tried to find the article yet, and I don't know who the author from the University of Rochester is, but the author from the University of Alabama will be either Roy Spencer or John Christy, and the author from the University of Virginia is apparently Singer (though it might be Patrick Michaels).

In other words, the skeptics are trying again. For some reason I don't think they'll be more successful this time.

Singer is incorrect. There are multiple ways to show that current solar variability is insufficient to drive the observed climate changes.

60 posted on 12/11/2007 9:02:08 AM PST by cogitator
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