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Univision Debate: Republicans Make Hard Sell to Latinos
New America Media ^ | December 10, 2007 | Elena Shore

Posted on 12/10/2007 11:25:59 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Editor’s Note: By participating in the historic Spanish-language debate on Univision, Republican candidates finally realized that they need Latino votes. But is it “too little, too late?" NAM editor Elena Shore monitors Spanish language media.

The first Spanish-language Republican presidential candidate debate couldn’t have come at a better time for the GOP. Latino support for the Republican Party has dropped substantially when the Latino vote is more important than ever. The candidates’ jostling over who is tougher on immigration has alienated Latinos even further.

Seven of the eight Republican presidential candidates showed up at the University of Miami Sunday with something to prove. Republican Tom Tancredo declined to participate, calling the Spanish-language debate un-American.

Unlike their Democratic competitors in the Univision debate three months ago, the Republican candidates were vying for the votes of a community that now has little support for the GOP.

Each candidate made a pitch to Latino voters at some point in the debate –but unlike debates in the English- language media, it was a pitch not for the candidate but for the Republican Party.

They did this while walking what some may consider to be a fine line; presenting themselves as opposed to illegal immigration but responsive to the concerns of Latino immigrants.

Candidates addressed legal immigrants, constantly reminding them of their differences from those who came to the country illegally – and even presenting undocumented immigrants as a threat to those who have waited in line to earn legal residency or citizenship. Defining this line between legal and illegal immigrants was essential to their success.

But the line is difficult to draw: As some of the questions reflected, the policies and climate toward undocumented immigrants can have ramifications for all Latinos. With the only question to receive applause from the audience, Jorge Ramos asked whether U.S.-born children who have an undocumented parent “have the right not to be separated from their parents.” Mitt Romney responded by attempting to draw an even deeper line: “We’re going to eliminate illegal immigration to protect legal immigration,” he said.

Maria Elena Salinas noted that four out of five Hispanics in the United States are legal residents or U.S. citizens, and asked what each candidate would do to combat anti-Hispanic sentiment in the United States.

In a bizarre attempt to pin the problem on illegal immigrants, Mike Huckabee said that once the border is secured, this problem will disappear. He said that racial profiling – when people hear an accent and presume the person is illegal – will not be a problem if illegal immigration is eliminated. “It’s in the best interest of legal immigrants to regularize immigration so no one questions their legitimacy,” he said.

Ron Paul was applauded when he answered that this resentment against Latinos actually has more to do with the economy. “If we have a healthy economy,” he said, “I think this problem will decrease a lot.”

As they negotiated the thorny topic of immigration to a Latino audience – through seven Spanish interpreters with different accents (several of whom made noticeable errors) – the candidates came across surprisingly clear. This was especially true when each extolled the virtues of the Republican Party. As if they had discussed the strategy together in the green room, each candidate listed shared concerns of Latinos and the GOP.

“A lot of the rhetoric that Hispanics hear about illegal immigration makes them think that we aren’t in favor of, or seeking the support of, Hispanics in the United States,” said John McCain. “Hispanics are in favor of small business, religion. They’re against regulation. They’re in favor of the Armed Forces.”

Duncan Hunter listed freedom and life as core values shared by Latinos and Republicans.

Fred Thompson cited family and opposition to gay marriage: “Hispanics know what their values are. They know, for example, that marriage is between a man and a woman. They know family is at the center of society.”

Romney shone in the debate, giving a strong pitch for the Republican Party in his opening remarks: “People came here for opportunity and our party is the party of opportunities. We stand for strength in the home, the family, the economy, the military… and so, of course, Republicans are going to have to speak to Hispanic Americans in the language they understand best.”

Rudy Giuliani, meanwhile, gave an essentially different pitch for the GOP.

Rather than arguing that so-called “Hispanic values” mirrored the values of the Republican Party, Giuliani took a different approach than the other candidates, arguing that Hispanics have the same priorities as all Americans, including health and education.

When asked if their participation in the Univision debate risked losing conservative votes, Giuliani laughed, saying that “Hispanics are Americans too,” and we all share the same concerns.

Judging by the cheers (for everyone, especially Romney) and boos (for Paul, when he suggested that the United States should talk with Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro), the Miami audience gave the candidates instant feedback as they pleaded their case to Latino voters.

As much as anything they said, simply participating in the historic Spanish-language debate showed that the Republican Party may finally realize that they need Latino votes. The only question now is, Is it too late?


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Ron Paul is such a tool! We have a great economy, you weird little troll! Why should the GOP have to sell itself to anybody? Either you agree with it and vote that way, or you don't!
1 posted on 12/10/2007 11:26:01 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You are suppose to get American votes. This just divides everyone.


2 posted on 12/10/2007 11:31:09 AM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If English proficiency is a requirement for American citizenship and hence the right to vote; then why should there be any need for a Spanish language presidential debate hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...
3 posted on 12/10/2007 11:31:11 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You’re missing the bigger point of this article - the fact that the GOP is now changing their tune in general.


4 posted on 12/10/2007 11:31:48 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Its hispandering. What a joke. If subscribing to multiculturalism and group identity politics is the best we can get from the GOP field, then we will probably wind up with Hillary. Apart from Tom Tancredo, none of the GOP candidates dared to say no to La Raza. That says it all.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

5 posted on 12/10/2007 11:33:32 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: af_vet_rr

I just went to Fred’s website: http://www.fred08.com/virtual/Immigration.aspx

He hasn’t changed a word on illegal immigration! Take a look....


6 posted on 12/10/2007 11:34:17 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Duncan, Duncan, you’re losing my vote.


7 posted on 12/10/2007 11:35:08 AM PST by donna (Duncan Hunter: US Army, 1969-1971, with service in Vietnam)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I doubt they’ll gain one percent of the votes they lose by this despicable balkanization.

Why don’t they go to Beijing and debate in mandarin while they are at it?


8 posted on 12/10/2007 11:35:18 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Bright, shiny objects need not apply!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tancredo refused to show for this fiasco....GOP should be ashamed of themselves.......what happened to ASSIMILATION? WHY was this debate translated into Spanish????


9 posted on 12/10/2007 11:35:41 AM PST by rockabyebaby (HEY JORGE, SHUT UP AND BUILD THE BLEEPING FENCE, ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.)
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To: rockabyebaby

The reason can be found here.

http://www.timebomb2000.com/misc/CWII.pdf

It’s a long read, but the reason is in there.


10 posted on 12/10/2007 11:38:36 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Bright, shiny objects need not apply!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I know Mitt Romney is trying to win over the crowd, but showing up to the Univision debate dressed like this was a bit too much:


11 posted on 12/10/2007 11:38:58 AM PST by inkling (exurbanleague.com)
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To: inkling

On the other hand: Fred Thompson not only doesn’t add cream or sugar to his coffee, he doesn’t add water!!


12 posted on 12/10/2007 11:41:56 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LOL!


13 posted on 12/10/2007 11:42:58 AM PST by inkling (exurbanleague.com)
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To: rockabyebaby

I was proud of Tom Tancredo, only American citizens are supposed to vote, and to be a citizen one needs to have a working knowlege of the English Language, plus all the ballots are printed in about 25 languages, plus one can bring some one in the booth to help them vote if needed,, so I think this pandering to one group is wrong..


14 posted on 12/10/2007 11:43:24 AM PST by JoanneSD (illegals represented without taxation.. Americans taxed without representation)
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To: Abbeville Conservative; asparagus; Austin1; bcbuster; bethtopaz; BlueAngel; Bluestateredman; ...
Romney shone in the debate, giving a strong pitch for the Republican Party in his opening remarks: “People came here for opportunity and our party is the party of opportunities. We stand for strength in the home, the family, the economy, the military… and so, of course, Republicans are going to have to speak to Hispanic Americans in the language they understand best.”...Judging by the cheers (for everyone, especially Romney) and boos (for Paul, when he suggested that the United States should talk with Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro), the Miami audience gave the candidates instant feedback as they pleaded their case to Latino voters. ----------------------------------------------------------- This response by Latinos in audience should help Romney in Florida (primary) and Nevada (caucus). PING!
15 posted on 12/10/2007 11:47:46 AM PST by circumbendibus
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To: JoanneSD

I agree.


16 posted on 12/10/2007 11:49:59 AM PST by Dante3
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Where can I find a transcript in English of the questions AND a video of the candidates’ answers in English?

I’d really like to hear the questions and answers — I don’t trust anyone to translate for me what the candidates said to their Latino audience.

Am I being too suspicious?


17 posted on 12/10/2007 11:50:32 AM PST by i_dont_chat (Your choice if you take offense.)
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To: af_vet_rr

Their tune goes something like this:

Hey now baby, get into my big black car.
Hey now baby, get into my big black car.
I want to just show you what my politics are.

Im a political man and I practice what I preach.
Im a political man and I practice what I preach.
So dont deny me baby, not while youre in my reach.

I support the left, though Im leaning, leaning to the right.
I support the left, though Im leaning to the right.
But Im just not there when its coming to a fight.

Hey now baby, get into my big black car.
Hey now baby, get into my big black car.
I want to just show you what my politics are.

Cream


18 posted on 12/10/2007 11:53:30 AM PST by claudiustg (You know it. I know it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A couple of dirty little secrets the MSM has deliberately avoided telling their readers is that the audience was very enthusiastic about the Republican’s answers to the debate questions. Only Ron Paul was booed loudly and that was for his anti-war sentiments and his statement that he would open a dialog with Castro and Hugo Chavez. The predominantly Cuban-American crowd didn’t like that at all. Funny how the MSM missed that.


19 posted on 12/10/2007 11:56:35 AM PST by Reaganesque (Charter Member of the Romney FR Resistance)
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To: goldstategop; donna

“Apart from Tom Tancredo, none of the GOP candidates dared to say no to La Raza. That says it all.”

No, Hunter went into the fire and stayed the course. The rest of them pandered.

“HUNTER: After that, 12 million more people came in. If we give

an amnesty to this next batch of 12 million people, you will have a

third wave of people coming in expecting to catch the third amnesty.

You know, this lady behind me represents a lot of things. One is

welcoming immigrants to America. The other is the rule of law. We

have to establish the rule of law, and people who are here illegally

have to go home.”

(APPLAUSE)


20 posted on 12/10/2007 12:02:32 PM PST by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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