Posted on 12/08/2007 5:47:57 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator
The new Buchanan goes to extraordinary lengths to condemn every action of the United States, leading him into surreal arguments. He belittles our pledge to defend Taiwan, although it is a traditional plank of Cold War conservatism to defend free nations in danger of being swallowed up by Communist tyrannies.[xxxv] He even criticizes the United States for meeting with the president of Estonia after he removed “the statue of a Russian soldier and the remains of fourteen Red Army veterans” from a central to a peripheral cemetery,[xxxvi] although Pat once said on Crossfire that Communism won’t be dead until they “go into Lenin’s tomb and dynamite the little dummy to kingdom come.” (Elsewhere, he excoriates President George W. Bush for making such ridiculous assertions as, “Successful societies limit the power of the state and the power of the military – so that governments respond to the will of the people, and not the will of an elite”;[xxxvii] they guarantee religious liberty and recognize women’s rights;[xxxviii] and they recognize that “Moral truth is the same in every culture, in every time, and in every place,” a proposition Culture Warrior Pat dismisses as “transparently…untrue.”)
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Was there ever any doubt??? "Palaeoconservatives" reject all universals, including the universal G-d. The true inner doctrine of "palaeoconservatism" is that each culture, over zillions of years of trial-and-error, creates its own equally valid worldview, which it then embodies in myth. Religion is subjective and utilitarian, its sole purpose being to reinforce the culture (just as Lefties want to use religion to reinforce their groundless G-dless morality).
This is why racialism and civilizationalism are inimical to true religious belief. Unfortunately, this is all too often lost in the traditional conversations about race and racism.
"Palaeconservatives" are atheist utilitarian henotheists.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
Paleo conservatives are Wotanists (see The Pink Swastika). They blame the Joos for the loss of one of their own to Bill Bennett in the Reagan administration and they’ve been angry at the Joos ever since.
Pat Bucannon has been unhinged and frankly dangerous since the end (our Victory) in the Cold War. I think he’s trying to channel his Daddy with his America Firster isolationism and defeatism. JMHO.
Its the curse of old age: cynicism and pessimism.
Death for Pat looms so he sees it in the wallpaper
Thanks to all of you, but you’re missing my point. Please go back and read my first post.
If you be fishin’ for Pat-bashers you’d do a might better proving where he’s wrong. Accusing “paleoconservatives” (a term made up by Bill Gate’s liberal gang of rabble) of being Godless suck-ups honoring a single God while not excluding those who honor multiple gods (polytheists) as being outside the sphere of acceptability - is far far off the mark of truth concerning nearly anyone receiving a Jesuit education.
Look it up. And look at CAIR’s infiltration of all the higher education facilities, sponsoring chairs through oil money with conditions designed to break down the most patriotic administrators.
In his rant, Ben left out; Pat the bestselling author.
Again.
Anyone who denies a universal objective moral code is wrong.
BTW, I be fishin' for people who actually believe in an objective G-d rather than people who worship "de wayz of our pipplez" (as the lefty nationalists put it).
Paleoconservatives are believing Christians who see tradition-hating “globalism” as more of a threat than the world’s traditional cultures. They’ve made a short- or maybe medium-term strategic decision to align themselves with other cultures against what they see as the true culture killers. This doesn’t mean the paleos truly regard all cultures as equal, or that they don’t believe their own traditional religion is the true religion. I think you’re confusing ideology with strategy.
Furthermore, I would guess that many paleos are pre-millenialist rapture types who think the world’s a lost cause anyway and that there’s no hope of saving it or converting it. For them it makes more sense to just turn inwards and wait for the inevitable Apocalypse. Others are genuine America-firsters who truly don’t think we should be screwing around in other parts of the world.
Maybe at the very tip top most elite ranks of the paleo movement there are the atheist utilitarians you describe, but I doubt it - though it would be interesting to know how seriously Buchanan takes his Catholicism.
Anyone who denies a universal objective moral code is wrong.
Never heard Buchanan denying God's will. If that has something to do with any definitive "moral code" beyond the Big Ten I'm all ears. I'd also like you to definitively print proof that Buchanan's anti-Jew beyond his Catholic upbringing, as that seems to be your primary reason to castigate the man. While in the National Advisor position the mad did say Israel is not a sacred cow to be protected above our nation's interests (which I'd expect any man with nads to acknowledge), but beyond that, from what I've read, Buchanan seems to be up on the threat of an impending Caliphate.
He's also totally correct about illegal immigration's corruptive corrosion on all levels of our government and it's sapping of our national identity through the liberals constant campaign to reshape it in their (ie: Hillary's) vision...because they never tried to get control of the problem at all. They refuse to recognize it IS a problem - thus proving they are not fit to lead.
First, Johnson says that Buchanan explicitly rejects the idea that there is a universal moral law that applies to all peoples in all places.
Second, while I'm as anti-globalist as the next guy, the Left works primarily now through mystical Third World nationalism. Do you really think North Korea or China or the reborn Aztec Empire of the chicano nationalists have the slightest intention of ever giving up their sovereignty and blending into a world government? Wimpy "western" governments may attempt to merge at some time in the future, but a true world government would violate the inherent soverignty and rights of the Australian aborigines, and that ain't gonna happen.
Furthermore, I would guess that many paleos are pre-millenialist rapture types who think the world’s a lost cause anyway and that there’s no hope of saving it or converting it. For them it makes more sense to just turn inwards and wait for the inevitable Apocalypse. Others are genuine America-firsters who truly don’t think we should be screwing around in other parts of the world.
You are very, very wrong here. The number of pre-mil "palaeos" can probably be counted on one finger (the millenium is regarded as a proto-bolshevik utopia that undermines "western civilization"). As a matter of fact most palaeos are either Catholic or amillenial Protestant (and they certainly have no use for pre-millenial Zionism). The amillenial anti-Zionist "reconstructionist" movement is mor their style. There's a book entitled The Rapture Cult which explicates this antimillenial, anti-Israel philosophy that is available online.
It is really astounding that anyone would conflate premillenialists and "palaeocons." I take it you've never belonged to the Birch Society? Well I have!
Maybe at the very tip top most elite ranks of the paleo movement there are the atheist utilitarians you describe, but I doubt it - though it would be interesting to know how seriously Buchanan takes his Catholicism.
Sam Francis was an atheist. Jared Taylor is an atheist. There is no room for a universal G-d in this scientific, biodeterminist worldview. As for Buchanan's Catholicism, there have long been "palaeos" who don't believe in G-d but who regard Catholicism as integral to "European culture." Perhaps you've heard of Action Francaise? Even Hilaire Belloc has been accused of such a philosophy.
At any rate the fact that Buchanan apparently considers the Catholicism of the Hispanics he hates so much to be meaingless demonstrates that he is a racialist/civilizationist first and foremost and a theological Catholic second. In other words, Catholicism's proper purpose is to act as an adjunct of European civilization and has no universal mission whatsoever.
If his current hero thinks that Stalin was great, then he is great in Pat's eyes.
It's the same phenomenon you see with the lterary fellating of Slobodan Milosevic by Tom Fleming of Chronicles - as long as one embraces Blut und Boden ideology, the palaeos support him. Unless of course that man is an Israeli. Then he is evil.
I knew you would understand, old friend!
The Left may have dreamed of a unified world state at one time, but it has now reversed itself and joined the Nazis in wishing for a "planet of peoples," in which completely separate races/civilizations create their own equally valid worldviews with no objective universal truths whatsoever. As I said, the ultimate secret of "palaeoconservatism" is henotheism--each nation serving its own "gxd" with its own mythology in its own "holy land." This is why "palaeos" are universally hostile to Jewish Nationalism. Jewish Nationalism is linked to the Objective Universal G-d and thus (paradoxically) the separateness of the Jews "blends" the rest of humanity while the rootedness of Israel "uproots" the other nations, pointing away from "blood and soil" and to Heaven.
Thank G-d for people like you, wideawake! Would that there were zillions more of you!
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