Posted on 12/05/2007 9:34:46 AM PST by dynachrome
A quote from the French judge, Jean de Maillard (Vice-president of the Superior Court of Orléans, and a professor at the Institute of Political Science in Paris), 28 November 2007 [here is an English translation]
When two schools, a library, a police station, a garage and several other buildings on a list already forgotten are set on fire, not to mention dozens of vehicles each day, we are used to it. It has become almost a routine.
However, the second night of Villiers-le-Bel marks an escalation that the media and the government would probably prefer to hush up, but which may be the start of a new stage: the use of firearms. In truth, the surprise is not that the rioters began to use them, but first, that they hadn't done it sooner [...] and second, that they are still confining themselves to hunting rifles and lead shot. The suburbs however have been armed for a long time with caches of quality war weapons, lethal weapons, against which the bullet-proof vests will be useless.
In other words the situation is explosive in both meanings of the word. It seems that from one riot to the next the techniques harden, the methods become more professional and the police and gendarmes will soon have to confront, if they have not already, experts in urban guerilla warfare [...]
I am convinced that up until now we have been lucky that the thugs and future murderers in the suburbs have not yet dared to use their fire power. I hope that the public authorities will become aware of the imminence of calamity and especially that they will finally seek solutions. I would not like to be in their shoes, for the margin of maneuverability, if there is one, will be very narrow. Yes, the perpetrators must be mercilessly punished. But repression, in the long term, solves nothing.
And people must stop dreaming, those on the Left and the others: neighborhood police are not a panacea either. You cannot graft an ethnic police force ["police communautaire"] on a society that is this sick and torn apart, in which the members are in open rebellion against society. Police are a means, not a solution. Educators will not be useful either: you cannot cure cancer with a placebo. To shower the caids [a type of governorship, originally found in North Africa and Moorish Spain] with subsidies to buy armed peace will be the chosen way: it will provide only a short respite. Is there another solution? I don't know, and I am very happy not to be in government.
Totally Agree!
It is quite easy to beat them up in times like this.
However, it is a grave mistake to misunderstand them.
No other people, in the history of the world, has caused so much death and destruction as the Europeans.
So he slams the entire state for one guy with poor judgement. Amazing.
In other words, the few existing french with a backbone will be forcably disarmed by thier government and be left at the mercy of the varelse muslims.
I think the newsworthy point is that it has been unclear that the man will be charged with murder, as he would be in most states. Thus, the issue isn’t simply one man, but Texas law which I guess seems to France as though it condones killing petty thieves.
Texas’ law, appropriate to rural areas, does seem quite shocking to megalopolitans.
I think he’s on your side, or at least in fairness acknowledging the problems with his own side if he is against you; I believe he’s saying that the national registry will be ineffective.
Poor judgement? I imagine the fellow will be no-billed by a grand jury. I'm fairly sure I'd support that if I were on one.
PS. “The French” refers to people. “The french” refers to tongue-kissing. If you encounter “the french with a backbone,” you’re trying to hard. *smirk*
You're confusing the Amish with the Quakers.
Amish are a very gentle people. Those Quakers, on the other hand. ;^)
This fear is exactly why Sarko won...let's hope he doen't disappoint.
Here's a list of them, ATLAS DES ZONES URBAINES SENSIBLES. It is substantial and requires a lot of time to go through.
The French have got themselves one king sized problem. They experienced it before in all it's wicked ugliness and one would think they would have learned their lesson about these people. Now it looks like it is coming home to France a half century later...
It needn’t be a war. I recall a little Corsican feller who solved a similar problem one time with “a whiff a grapeshot.” Name of Bonaparte. Wonder whatever happened to him?
Piss on him! I'll be safer in Texas than in France.
Obviously you don't know. All you have ever said boils down to two words.
Open Borders
And since ‘62, they’ve had leadership which has striven to alienate them from every possible ally, both Soviet aligned and American.
The French population has been disarmed and brought up for a full generation on the belief that all hard things are someone else’s problem to deal with.
The French gov has made it policy, since at least the mid ‘70s to buy protection from muslim antagonism by giving away Western intel that had been gathered against muslim terrorist forces and their Soviet sponsors.
Many folk still want to color this new wave of jihadi, both casual and professional, as just your garden variety civil disruptor. Not the case. Not at all. There are the usual useful idiots among the crowd, but the central knot, the leaders, motivators, and soon, the primary fighters are pure psychopathic true believers and many are already battle tested and conditioned.
Thousands of jihadi are recruited and trained every year. We’ve worked at making the training harder by attacking what safe havens we can reach, but the French, among others, have done everything they can to prevent those interventions or minimalize the effect.
Iraq, Afghanistan and other hot zones were primary draws for these jihadi, once trained and ready. Now those places are getting to hot. Paris is nice and cool. Lots of pretty and undefended people to prey upon.
I suspect hell has set up shop in many of the urban no go zones and is just about ready to walk out hard and bloody.
I may be mistaken, but I believe Algerians and Moroccans have access to France that is more akin to people from Puerto Rico than it is illegals from Mexico. I don’t thikn it’s not “open borders” in the way you’re trying to make it out to be.
Agreed. If it happens, which it may not, the burning of France will serve as an abject wake up call to the others, and some among ourselves.
Another lesson to be learned, is that trying to hide behind political neutrality offers as much protection from a dedicated invasion as did the Maginot Line.
There is no such thing as a long term sustainable defense. Never has existed. Does not now exist. Never will exist. Attack the threat or be attacked by the threat. Those are the options.
All politically correct, dandy little euphemisms for the actual problem. Young, male Muslims given free reign to do what they please because no one wants to p!$$ off the Muslims.
France is getting what they deserve for their complacence and placation.
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