Odd..........There must be some reason that the ethanol studies found this. I just can't put my finger on it...........
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2 posted on
12/05/2007 9:30:47 AM PST by
Red Badger
( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
To: Red Badger
I can’t imagine why the University of N. Dakota would find such positive results for ethanol.
To: Red Badger
I don’t buy this but have found the 10% blend gives better mileage than the previous one with MTBE.
4 posted on
12/05/2007 9:33:02 AM PST by
#1CTYankee
(That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
To: Red Badger
I will love to hear Mobile’s rebuttal of this....
5 posted on
12/05/2007 9:33:29 AM PST by
Abathar
(Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
To: Red Badger
Odd also ... no one sells the 20% or 30% blends. Am I wrong?
6 posted on
12/05/2007 9:33:32 AM PST by
Red_Devil 232
(VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
To: Red Badger
Higher compression ratios, higher expansion factor on the downstroke, etc.
Ethanol raises effective octane levels. If you could depend on 10 to 20% ethanol in the fuel, you could require Detroit to up the compression ratio on gas engines to, oh, about 12:1 from the current 9.5:1.
7 posted on
12/05/2007 9:37:02 AM PST by
NVDave
To: Red Badger
Research findings released today indicate that mid-range ethanol blendsfuel mixtures with more ethanol than 10% (E10) but less than 85% (E85)can in some cases provide better fuel economy than regular unleaded gasoline, even in standard, non-flex-fuel vehiclesHmmm Fuel with less energy will do more work. makes sense to me (as long as you repeal the first law of thermodynamics - something that Kongress has done with the CAFE standards.) Maybe that's how they found that you can get more work out of less energy. They ran the study after Kongress repealed the first law.
9 posted on
12/05/2007 9:37:50 AM PST by
from occupied ga
(Your most dangerous enemy is your own government, Benito Guilinni a short man in search of a balcony)
To: Red Badger
The optimal blend varies with the vehicle Great, so you drive up to he pump, and enter your vehicle's make and model, and the pump mixes it for you.
Yeah, THAT's gonna work.
Or maybe each vehicle has a gasoline and an ethanol tank, and it mixes them itself.
Yeah, THAT's gonna work.
15 posted on
12/05/2007 9:43:09 AM PST by
Izzy Dunne
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To: Red Badger
The results of this study seem to defy the laws of physics...
To: Red Badger
“The new study, co-sponsored by the US Department of Energy and the American Coalition for Ethanol (ACE)”
LOL! In other news, a study co-sponsored by Burger King and McDonalds found that fast food is quite healthy. :)
28 posted on
12/05/2007 10:02:04 AM PST by
L98Fiero
(A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
To: Red Badger
Just because the engines will operate without displaying emissions codes doesn't mean the water content in the ethanol won't eventually corrode metal components within the system. The first to go will be the metal diaphragm in the fuel pump, if the fuel pump is mounted in the gas tank, as most fuel pumps nowadays are. Fittings along the fuel lines headed from the tank to the engine are vulnerable, as are rubber hoses throughout the system.
My guess is it will take about six months to a year of regular ethanol use, in the quantities above E10, for rust and dry rot to begin to plague a non-flex-fuel vehicle.
I find the news in the article good news, however, especially the 15% increase in the Chevy flex-fueler. There are millions of these flex-fuel vehicles in the hands of drivers who are nowhere near E-85, but if blends of lesser ethanol content could deliver that much of an improvement in fuel economy, then the demand for it will soon begin in earnest.
To: Red Badger
My Research Assistant working on my next ethanol blend. It may take some time to complete this study, but I'll report back with my findings.
36 posted on
12/05/2007 10:07:08 AM PST by
Ghengis
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To: Red Badger
37 posted on
12/05/2007 10:07:39 AM PST by
Old Professer
(The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
To: Red Badger
Put your hip boots on ping.
38 posted on
12/05/2007 10:14:59 AM PST by
Clay Moore
("My daddy says I'm this close to living in the yard." Ralph Wiggum)
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As Grampa used to say...hooey.
39 posted on
12/05/2007 10:17:57 AM PST by
polymuser
(In the twinkling of an eye...)
To: Red Badger
Exactly the opposite of my own personal observations in my Toyota.
Mark
83 posted on
12/05/2007 11:23:16 AM PST by
MarkL
(Listen, Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government)
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