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Liars And Kidnappers [Hollywood promoting atheism Alert]
Investor's Business Daily ^ | December 4, 2007

Posted on 12/05/2007 6:28:36 AM PST by Zakeet

A star-studded, big-budget fantasy film released for Christmastime features religion as the villain. Hollywood is collaborating with a militant atheist British children's book author to indoctrinate children.

"The Golden Compass," which opens this week, stars Nicole Kidman and cost Time Warner's New Line Cinema $180 million to produce, is based on the first installment of Phillip Pullman's children's book trilogy "His Dark Materials."

Pullman is a fire-breathing British atheist who has told the Washington Post that "I'm trying to undermine the basis of Christian belief" and remarked that "My books are about killing God."

He has also noted that "I am of the Devil's party and I know it."

Daily Mail writer Peter Hitchens has called Pullman "the most dangerous author in Britain," a storyteller determined to "dethrone" "Chronicles of Narnia" author C.S. Lewis "and supplant his books with others which proclaim the death of God to the young."

The book version of "The Golden Compass" and its two sequels feature a hybrid of Catholic and Protestant authority that includes a "Pope John Calvin." Two children, a pseudo-Adam and Eve named Will and Lyra, have Narnia-like adventures with talking bears and witches as they are pitted against a "church" or "magisterium" that kidnaps children through its "general oblation board," "oblate" being a Catholic term for monks and nuns.

"Gobblers," as members of the general oblation board are known, kidnap children and perform experiments on them, such as ripping out their souls or "daemons," which then live in animal form. It renders the children zombies.

At the epic's finale, a wrinkled, demented God is tracked down and destroyed, and Will and Lyra are liberated by their discovery of sexuality.

(Excerpt) Read more at ibdeditorials.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: antichristian; atheism; christianbashing; culturewar; goldencompass; hollywood; ibdeditorials; moviereview; pullman; subversion
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Just in time for Christmas: One of [the author's] goals is to destroy the naivete
of childhood ... children need to be protected from indoctrination by their own parents.

Pope Benedict XVI: "It is no accident that this idea has led to the greatest forms of
cruelty and violations of justice."

1 posted on 12/05/2007 6:28:37 AM PST by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

Will little children really understand that this is about GOD? Really?


2 posted on 12/05/2007 6:32:59 AM PST by Hildy (Faith is the bird that sings when the dawn is still dark.)
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To: Zakeet
Actually, the series is a damn good read ... although by midway through book 3 "The Amber Spyglass" it got a bit "preachy" ...

similar to by the time the "Chronicles of Narnia" got to "The Last Battle" that was also quite over the top and preachy ...

Both good stories though... and both guilty of attempted indoctrination ..

3 posted on 12/05/2007 6:34:56 AM PST by SubGeniusX (The People have Unenumerated Rights, The Government does not have Unenumerated Powers!)
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To: Zakeet
"It is no accident that this idea has led to the greatest forms of cruelty and violations of justice."

That statement by the Pope regarding Athesim is ludicris at best ...

I would Posit that "organized" religion has led to many more injustices and cruelties than athesim ..

4 posted on 12/05/2007 6:38:23 AM PST by SubGeniusX (The People have Unenumerated Rights, The Government does not have Unenumerated Powers!)
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To: Hildy

The author is very clever. The first book really isn’t that bad, I’ve read it. People will see the movie and think all this talk about militant atheism is nonsense. The real ideological pay off doesn’t come until the second and third books.


5 posted on 12/05/2007 6:38:31 AM PST by DManA
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To: Zakeet

We’ll pass, with fortune the presence of Box Office poison Nicole Kidman will doom this agit prop to the 1.99 bin at Blockbuster...


6 posted on 12/05/2007 6:38:42 AM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3)
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To: Zakeet

Wow, that author is a NUT job!
Not seeing that movie.


7 posted on 12/05/2007 6:38:54 AM PST by Havok (The cake is a LIE....)
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To: SubGeniusX
both guilty of attempted indoctrination

Can't disagree, but the flavor of the efforts is quite different.

CS Lewis was a known Apologist (meaning: defender) of the Christian faith. The idea that he was attempting to promote Christianity in his books could hardly come as a surprise to anyone.

Pullman, on the other hand, is quite cagey. He has quotes where he is very blunt, but also quotes where he says he not really attacking God, just -- you know -- some aspects of organzied religion. He's trying to sneak in under the radar and do his indoctrination.

This shows up also in the movie promotion in which studio reps say "The movie isn't really as anti-religious as the books" but also admit that the next movie is -- uh -- quite different.

8 posted on 12/05/2007 6:42:13 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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“I would Posit that “organized” religion has led to many more injustices and cruelties than athesim ..”

I disagree, inbetween Communism and Abortion, non Christian forms of actions have put more people in the ground then Christianity ever has by the largest of margins imaginable.


9 posted on 12/05/2007 6:43:02 AM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3)
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To: Hildy
Will little children really understand that this is about GOD? Really?

Do you have an issue with full disclosure?

10 posted on 12/05/2007 6:43:41 AM PST by frogjerk
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To: SubGeniusX
I would Posit that "organized" religion has led to many more injustices and cruelties than athesim ..

Atheistic Communism killed 100 million in the 20th century.

Christianity doesn't come close to that.

11 posted on 12/05/2007 6:43:47 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: SubGeniusX
Without God, your tagline holds no water.
12 posted on 12/05/2007 6:47:55 AM PST by frogjerk
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To: SubGeniusX
What is it at worst?

That statement by the Pope regarding Athesim is ludicris at best ...

13 posted on 12/05/2007 6:48:59 AM PST by DManA
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To: DManA

Exactly. Get the kids hooked with the cute, likable characters then reel ‘em in. I’m sick the vile crap coming out of hollywood.


14 posted on 12/05/2007 6:50:52 AM PST by hiramknight (Freedom isn't free. Ask a marine, soldier, airmen or sailor.)
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To: frogjerk
I'm not an atheist...

I believe that the Creator gave us Reason, not Religion.

15 posted on 12/05/2007 6:53:29 AM PST by SubGeniusX (The People have Unenumerated Rights, The Government does not have Unenumerated Powers!)
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To: DManA

Possibly “Ludacris”?


16 posted on 12/05/2007 6:56:04 AM PST by thulldud
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To: SubGeniusX

Semantics. I am a part of the Body of Christ. Does that make me “religious”? Guess I don’t care what label someone else puts on me.


17 posted on 12/05/2007 7:01:20 AM PST by DManA
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To: SubGeniusX
Both good stories though... and both guilty of attempted indoctrination ..

I would have to say that at the time of the writing of the Narnia books, more kids already WERE Chistians...and the religious underpinnings of those books were never hidden. Were it not for the Internet, nobody would know that the author of this cuddly, thrilling "kids movie" despises Christ, God, religion, and all who follow it...

A true "atheist" would merely chose to ignore the beliefs of Christianity, like someone who is apolitical has no political opinions. This author is really an antitheist...like a Liberal, he knows he's smarter than you. The equvalent idea would be the man who chooses to have no breakfast himself...but whizzes in your Wheaties because you want to.

18 posted on 12/05/2007 7:04:29 AM PST by 50sDad (Liberals: Never Happy, Never Grateful, Never Right.)
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To: Hildy; Zakeet
I’m taking the children. Looks to be a good popcorn cruncher.

My kids are secure enough that they will not grow horns and a tail as they’re coming out of the movie.

Pssst - Sometimes I even work on Sundays. I take a drink now and again also. :-)

19 posted on 12/05/2007 7:06:36 AM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: SubGeniusX
I would Posit that "organized" religion has led to many more injustices and cruelties than athesim ...

So, fewer people were harmed by the SovUnion's purges, Hitler's deathcamps, and other societies where Man's theology replaced that of the Church?

20 posted on 12/05/2007 7:06:37 AM PST by 50sDad (Liberals: Never Happy, Never Grateful, Never Right.)
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