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Did early Southwestern Indians ferment corn and make beer?
www.physorg.com ^ | 12/04/07 | Sandia National Laboratory

Posted on 12/04/2007 12:35:33 PM PST by Red Badger

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To: Santa Fe_Conservative
Honestly I have always wanted to make just start leaving fruits and veggies out for long periods of time to start the fermentation process and make my own home brew. It’s be a smelly operation though.

When I was in Ivory Coast Africa, all the palm trees were cut off at about 4 ft high. Dumb me asked why all the trees grew that way. He explained the fine point of making palm wine. Top of tree was to the ground with cut off point 4 ft high, leaving a natural container to ferment in. Come back a few weeks later and drain the trunk into your used oil containers and bicycle back into town with a smile on your face.
21 posted on 12/04/2007 12:59:43 PM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: TommyDale
Not beer, corn liquor. Know affectionately to the Native Americans as “firewater”.

Without distillation, there's no way that a fermented beverage would have the necessary alcohol content to become "firewater". It was called so, because if spat upon a campfire, it would flare up if it were 50% alcohol, being 100 percent proof that it was indeed a potent potable.

22 posted on 12/04/2007 1:00:36 PM PST by hunter112 (Hillary Clinton - America’s Ex-Wife®)
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To: Red Badger

“The belief among some archeologists that Europeans introduced alcohol to the Indians of the American Southwest may be faulty.”

The Europeans with their OCPD thought the Indains to abuse alcohol.


23 posted on 12/04/2007 1:02:49 PM PST by wolfcreek (The Status Quo Sucks!)
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To: wolfcreek

Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder?........


24 posted on 12/04/2007 1:04:28 PM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: GOP_Raider; knews_hound

Weak beer and home brew ping in one.
This stuff sounds pretty bad.


25 posted on 12/04/2007 1:11:02 PM PST by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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To: VR-21

Tizwin, sounds onomatopoetic.


26 posted on 12/04/2007 1:11:43 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: TommyDale
Not beer, corn liquor. Know affectionately to the Native Americans as “firewater”.

And known affectionately to Pale Faces as Bourbon.

27 posted on 12/04/2007 1:14:40 PM PST by Zakeet (Be thankful we don't get all the government we pay for)
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To: TommyDale

bingo that.....firewater.........I know.
I’m German / Cherokee........the problem with that
is everytime I get drunk, I wanna scalp myself


28 posted on 12/04/2007 1:16:39 PM PST by advertising guy (If computer skills named us, I'd be back-space delete.)
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To: Nathan Zachary
If they did, I'd like to see that recipe. It's really hard to make beer from corn. You can make whiskey from corn, but beer is made from mainly barley.

They may be calling any undistilled alcoholic beverage "beer."

Chicha, the Inca beverage made out of corn is an example.

It wouldn't pass the German legal standard for beer, but it's sometimes called a "corn beer".

Kvass, the undistilled Russian beverage made out of fermented rye bread may be another example.

29 posted on 12/04/2007 1:22:12 PM PST by x
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To: Red Badger

Gimme another redman! Hic!


30 posted on 12/04/2007 2:01:31 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Red Badger

Right!


31 posted on 12/04/2007 2:01:59 PM PST by wolfcreek (The Status Quo Sucks!)
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To: 4yearlurker

What’s funny about that? I’m Indian and I still don’t know or want to know what a rake or hoe is. LOL (or a lawn mower)


32 posted on 12/04/2007 2:11:32 PM PST by fish hawk (The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
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To: Red Badger

bmflr

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Why the smart money is on Duncan Hunter
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33 posted on 12/04/2007 2:33:38 PM PST by Kevmo (We should withdraw from Iraq — via Tehran. And Duncan Hunter is just the man to get that job done.)
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To: x
Kvass, the undistilled Russian beverage made out of fermented rye bread may be another example.

Kvass is not an alcoholic beverage.

34 posted on 12/04/2007 2:53:54 PM PST by A Longer Name
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To: nomorelurker

self ping for later


35 posted on 12/04/2007 2:57:52 PM PST by nomorelurker (keep flogging them till morale improves)
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To: fish hawk
Okay. Let’s call it humorous. The reason you don’t want to know what a rake or hoe is because we now have supermarkets.
36 posted on 12/04/2007 3:20:20 PM PST by 4yearlurker (Thanks Vets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: rzeznikj at stout; GOP_Raider; Rodney King; Tainan; Chasaway; SquirrelKing; dynachrome; ...
(My apologies for this being a little late, our black lab passed away this afternoon.)

Beer Ping!

A low to medium ping list aimed at all of us who, well, love our beer…

FReepmail rzeznikj at stout to be added or struck from the list…

37 posted on 12/04/2007 6:30:33 PM PST by GOP_Raider ("Thanks, Mike." -Lane Kiffin)
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Sorry to hear about your dog. I lost my second Black Lab last month, and the first one this time last year. They were old, but it still sucks.

Go drown your sorrows for a while but remember that tomorrow is another day. ;)

P.S. That “Beer Hunter” sure looks like Mitt Romney, LOL!


38 posted on 12/04/2007 6:37:15 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Our black lab was just a shade over 12 years old and had a gigantic tumor removed from her hind leg about 6 months ago only to have it grow back bigger and badder. We got her when I was 15. My mom ended up taking her to the vet yesterday and according to her, she was fighting the vets from injecting her and, in turn, putting her to sleep.

My mom was pretty inconsolable today, since she picked her out of the litter we were looking at getting a black lab pup and it ended up being her that watched her be put to sleep. It’s been a pretty sad day.


39 posted on 12/04/2007 6:47:37 PM PST by GOP_Raider ("Thanks, Mike." -Lane Kiffin)
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