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The Stunning Reality of Voter Fraud
Human Events ^ | 12/04/2007 | Wright Talley

Posted on 12/04/2007 7:55:17 AM PST by vietvet67

In what may be the most important voting case since Bush v. Gore, the U.S. Supreme Court in January will hear a challenge to Indiana’s 2006 law requiring a voter ID to vote. If the court rules against the law, 22 state voter ID laws that were designed to prevent voter fraud could be eliminated.

Democrats and so-called voting rights groups such as ACORN, the ACLU and the League of Women Voters (all of whom are challenging the law) claim there has been little actual voter fraud, few federal prosecutions and convictions, and that the purpose of the Indiana law is to prevent minorities and the poor from voting.

This argumentation and legal challenge are being made despite numerous cases of voter fraud that have been reported by the media over the last 10 years. Adding fuel to this fire recently were stunning statements by two prominent political activists -- a Democrat and a Republican -- on opposite sides of the continent that show that voter fraud in the United States is very real.

The Albuquerque Tribune reported in January 2007 that the newly elected New Mexico elections director and former general counsel for the state Democratic Party, Daniel Ivey-Soto, frankly told county elections officials that voter fraud exists in that key swing state. “I have been in conversations with people who have told me that, at various times, they’ve voted more than once on Election Day.…It happens.” Asked by the clerks how he could guarantee that same-day voter registration laws would not cause more voter fraud, Ivey-Soto replied, “I can’t ... but I can’t guarantee there isn’t fraud going on now.…I know people who have gone on Election Day and voted multiple times because they knew people who weren’t going to vote.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: stealingelections; votefraud; voterfraud; walkingaroundmoney
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1 posted on 12/04/2007 7:55:17 AM PST by vietvet67
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Odd that THE senior document in Mexico is THE VOTER ID CARD!
2 posted on 12/04/2007 7:56:55 AM PST by null and void (No more Bushes/No more Clintons)
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To: vietvet67
Democrats and so-called voting rights groups such as ACORN, the ACLU and the League of Women Voters (all of whom are challenging the law) claim there has been little actual voter fraud, few federal prosecutions and convictions, and that the purpose of the Indiana law is to prevent minorities and the poor from voting.

That's pretty rich! ACORN was found GUILTY of voter fraud in Washington State during our last election. Now they are trying to downplay it happens when they are one of the groups that is active in voter fraud?!

3 posted on 12/04/2007 8:00:43 AM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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I am hopeful that the current Supreme court will knock down this socialist attempt to cheat on our national elections. I think everyone needs ID and a simple history test which may include such questions as: 1) Who kicked Santana’s butt out of Texas? 2) How many miles of the border fence have been erected to date? 3) How many illegals does it take to cross the border illegally?


4 posted on 12/04/2007 8:01:17 AM PST by princess leah
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To: vietvet67
"...there has been little actual voter fraud..."
tell that to mayor daley or texas or florida.

what a crock!!!

6 posted on 12/04/2007 8:04:11 AM PST by robomatik
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ALWAYS throw it back in their faces that it is ALWAYS a Democrat that opposes making sure a voter is eligible to vote.

Ineligible (illegal) voters cancel out, and DISINFRANCHISE, legitimate voters.

But, leftists don’t care, because the ends always justify the means.


7 posted on 12/04/2007 8:04:35 AM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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claim there has been little actual voter fraud

One is too many. By the way, I can't remember reading about one single case of Republican voter fraud. Democrats commit voter fraud.

8 posted on 12/04/2007 8:07:02 AM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: null and void
Hard to believe the Scotus would rule against an ID requirement, when most of the states wanting to use the ID, have agreed to provide an ID, to those who say they can’t afford one, or have no access to get one...

But whenever anyone starts yelping about black people being disenfranchised, the courts bend over backwards as to not offend blacks.

I have a bad felling on this one, because the courts will be sold a pile crap, that this is a civil rights issue, a way to prevent blacks from voting.

Here’s the deal, I don’t give a rat’s ass what color you are, if you can’t take the time to get a proper ID, if the state will provide one if you ask for one and you still don’t want to -— you are too stupid, too lazy or both to vote.

9 posted on 12/04/2007 8:10:41 AM PST by Beatthedrum
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I live in Dodge County, Georgia. In 1992, it was the site of the largest voter fraud trail in history with hundreds of people testifying that they had sold votes. Many of them testified that they had voted multiple times in exchange for money. Those testifying were not prosecuted but 26 people were convicted of either buying votes or conspiracy related to buying votes.

This was no secret. The trail and events were covered by The New York Times and other major publications. Most of them more accurate than The New York Times but The Atlanta Journal-Constitution is about as bad.

The voter fraud took place in the Democrat primary only, of course. And that is, of course, the reason no one in the press or on the wrong side of the aisle remembers it.

10 posted on 12/04/2007 8:11:14 AM PST by Ken in Eastman (Those who ignore history are destined to vote Democrat)
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Overwhelming democRAT voter.....WHAT A SHOCK!!!!!!


11 posted on 12/04/2007 8:11:19 AM PST by NCBraveheart
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To: princess leah
and a simple history test

Nah, make it about current events. Ask who is the current President of the U.S. There goes thousands of ignorant voters. Ask who is the vice president and you might eliminate hundreds of thousands. Ask who is your U.S. Senator and you're in the millions.

Up side? There would never be another democrat elected to any office.

12 posted on 12/04/2007 8:12:22 AM PST by Graybeard58 ( Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: vietvet67

I have been trying to obtain a Matricula Consular card from the Mexican embassy to prove what a fraud it is, no luck thus far. Damn me for not being a criminal!


13 posted on 12/04/2007 8:12:37 AM PST by NCBraveheart
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To: Beatthedrum
No man’s life, liberty, or property are safe as long as court is in session...
14 posted on 12/04/2007 8:13:42 AM PST by null and void (No more Bushes/No more Clintons)
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Yeah, here in New Mexico we are very familiar with it. There is also the extra box of votes from Donna Ana county that always magically appear when the vote is close.


15 posted on 12/04/2007 8:15:32 AM PST by CougarGA7 (I'm supporting a Conservative not a RINO http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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“trying to obtain a Matricula Consular card”
What documents are needed now? They shot down a program in Colorado where I would have just needed a utilities bill and maybe a library card. Photoshop was ready to go!


16 posted on 12/04/2007 8:15:36 AM PST by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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To: Graybeard58
Nah, make it about current events. Ask who is the current President of the U.S. There goes thousands of ignorant voters. Ask who is the vice president and you might eliminate hundreds of thousands. Ask who is your U.S. Senator and you're in the millions.

I'd add to it naming your representative in the U.S. House, along with a basic geography test like pointing to your state on a globe. The key would be making it simple enough that someone who cares would not need to spend more than 5 minutes to look up the answers.

17 posted on 12/04/2007 8:16:54 AM PST by pnh102
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To: Graybeard58
They claim there is no voter fraud but they oppose requiring ID because it would stop voter fraud.
18 posted on 12/04/2007 8:17:30 AM PST by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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How Voter Fraud in Philadelphia Affect Us All

By 2banana

According to CNN, Bush lost Pennsylvania to Kerry by 144,248 votes (out of more than 5.7 million cast - a razor thin margin that was even closer than the “too close to call” Ohio vote).

Also according to CNN, Kerry received about 542,000 votes and Bush received about 130,000 votes in Philadelphia (or a ratio of 4.16 for Kerry).

Now, for the really interesting numbers. According to the recent US Census, the Population of Philadelphia that is of voting age is 1,105,066. This number includes people who by law can not vote (non-American citizens, felons, out of state college students, etc.). In 2004, there were 1,035,395 registered voters in Philadelphia, up 34,000 from 2001.

So, what does this mean?

First, even as Philadelphia looses population, the number of registered voters continues to increase, year after year. Today, in Philadelphia, nearly 100% of every person of voting age must registered to vote (as compared to a national average of 60% by the Census Bureau). Consider, since 1995, Philadelphia’s voter rolls have jumped 24 percent while at the same time that the city’s population has declined by 13 percent.

Second, the total lopsidedness of the 4.16 ratio is an absolutely astounding number - even heavily democratic Broward Country, FL (one of the only places Gore wanted recounted in 2000) only went for Kerry 2:1 and Cook County, IL (Chicago - THE definition of the democrat voting machine) only went for Kerry 2.5:1.

Either Philadelphia has the most engaged and civic population in the history of the World, or there is massive voter fraud.

And the amount of fraud easily exceeds the margin of loss of President Bush. For instance, if the registration was above average and if Philadelphia was just your “average-democrat-rustbelt-city-union-stronghold with a 50 year democrat political machine,” the vote for Kerry in Philadelphia would have been just over 350,000. The voter fraud in Philadelphia is worth about 150,000 votes - a deficit that any Republican running for statewide office must overcome with real votes.

But is this “real” fraud or is it one of the easily predicted “unintended consequences” of the Clinton Motor-Voter Law? A few nights before the 2004 presidential election, Chris Matthews, Howard Fineman, Andrea Mitchell and the Mayor of Philadelphia (John Street) were on Hardball. They were all laughing away about how the election was great for the economy of Philadelphia, and suggesting that there would plenty of “street money” around to “get out the vote.” And these are the same people who are going to stop or report any kind of voter fraud?

I find it ironic that a country like Afghanistan (where I had combat tour of duty), with no history of democracy, has a country wide and nearly fraud free election under the oversight of us - Americans. But we instituted a few rules like - you had to prove you are an Afghan, you had to get a voter ID, show the voter ID when you voted, your name had to match the voter roll, and you had to get your thumb stamped by permanent ink so you couldn’t vote twice.

Maybe, one day, in Philadelphia, we will have free and fair elections with a minimum of fraud on the level of the recent vote in Afghanistan.


19 posted on 12/04/2007 8:20:28 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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This should be a no-brainer. Preventing vote fraud is a legitimate government interest. However, promoting vote fraud is an interest of many politicians.

An ID is not too much to ask. People who object are the same people who want to preserve the current and future vote fraud schemes.

20 posted on 12/04/2007 8:22:54 AM PST by gridlock (Recycling is the new Religion.)
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