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To: A CA Guy
Using deadly force is a federal crime, a violation of civil rights when a man from another race shoots a black man or another racial minority?

Horn has a problem though, if the article reported his converation with the police dispatcher right. He left his home after saying the words : " I'm gonna kill 'em." That shows intent to kill, not to defend a neigbor's property.

If he had said, "I am keeping them out of our yard," then he would be a lot better off. I beleive that unfortunately the Grand Jury will return an indictment for homocide. It will be a jury trial where he likley will be exonerated, if he has a sharp trial lawyer who knows how to select a jury in the empanelling process.

31 posted on 12/02/2007 8:12:09 PM PST by Candor7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Baghdad_(1258))
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To: Candor7

I heard the whole thing twice a month ago.

He went out to make a citizens arrest, then they came at him on his property, so he shot them.

Had they not been criminals robbing people they would not have been shot.


35 posted on 12/02/2007 8:22:18 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Candor7

I already fought that battle on the original thread. He was not very smart (Joe Horn), and I am not sure what he did was right; Yet, according to Texas Law, regardless of what he said, what he did was lawful and legal.


40 posted on 12/02/2007 8:33:34 PM PST by WildcatClan (Duncan Hunter, the real deal, the only deal for Conservative Americans)
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To: Candor7
Horn has a problem though, if the article reported his converation with the police dispatcher right. He left his home after saying the words : " I'm gonna kill 'em." That shows intent to kill, not to defend a neigbor's property.

In the event, neighbors corroborate his version of events. They were in his yard when he left his house, about 15 feet from him. Then, when he yelled, "Move and you're dead", they moved.. TOWARDS HIM. I suspect the forensics also corroborate, or Mr. Horn would be in jail.

55 posted on 12/02/2007 9:46:03 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Candor7
I beleive that unfortunately the Grand Jury will return an indictment for homocide

Texas grand juries are not known for bringing a "true bill" when persons committing crimes are shot by law abiding citizens. I predict a "No Bill". That means they will refuse to indict him.

But if they do, I'll gladly contribute to his defense fund.

57 posted on 12/02/2007 9:52:57 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Candor7
How to select a jury


75 posted on 12/03/2007 4:43:55 AM PST by ASA Vet
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To: Candor7
return an indictment for homocide

That's the first I have heard about the burglars being "gay."

84 posted on 12/03/2007 5:18:44 AM PST by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than to have to fight them OVER HERE!)
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To: Candor7

How is a sincere criminal, trying hard, going to get ahead
in his profession if his victim fails to cooperate?
Almost all crime depends on the cooperation of the victim.
If the victim refuses his assigned role, the criminal is
placed at a disadvantage, one so severe that it usually
takes an understanding and compassionate judge to set right.

LAZARUS LONG


99 posted on 12/03/2007 6:42:12 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rudy,Romney,McCain, Huckabee will send a self-abused stomped elephant to the DRNC.)
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To: Candor7
I beleive that unfortunately the Grand Jury will return an indictment for homocide

I'd bet money that a Pasadena jury would return a no bill.
108 posted on 12/03/2007 8:07:33 AM PST by BJClinton (Don't taze me, bro!)
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To: Candor7
“Horn has a problem though, if the article reported his converation with the police dispatcher right. He left his home after saying the words : “ I’m gonna kill ‘em.” That shows intent to kill, not to defend a neigbor’s property.”

It’s accurate. I heard the 911 call played up here in Oklahoma, and that is what he said. Methinks he’s going to trial.

141 posted on 12/05/2007 5:20:26 PM PST by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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