Posted on 12/02/2007 2:57:55 PM PST by Zakeet
Mitt Romney will deliver a speech entitled “Faith in America,” addressing his Mormon religion, on Thursday at the George H.W. Bush Presidential Library in College Station, Tex.
His campaign is describing the address as an opportunity for Mr. Romney to “share his views on religious liberty, the grand tradition religious tolerance has played in the progress of our nation and how the governor’s own faith would inform his presidency if he were elected.”
Mr. Romney personally made the decision to give the speech last week, feeling it was the right moment to do so, his advisers said. After he decided he would make it, the campaign consulted with former President Bush’s library, which invited him to deliver it there.
Suspicions about his Mormon beliefs, which many conservative Christians consider to be heretical, have dogged Mr. Romney’s candidacy since it began, with many polls showing large numbers of Americans would not vote for a Mormon presidential candidate.
Mr. Romney had resisted delivering a speech dedicated to his faith up to this point, choosing instead to address questions about his beliefs when they came up from audience members and reporters.
But many, including evangelical supporters, have long urged him to address the questions head on and deliver an address modeled after the one John F. Kennedy delivered about his Catholicism to a gathering of Southern Baptist ministers in Houston in 1960 that many credit with defusing questions about his faith.
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“Why is that?”
It would be the same as if the muslims all of a sudden decided to call themselves Christian. You can call a baby diaper a lunch pail but you will not eat out of it.
Who taught you to equate Mormons with Muslims?
That is crazy.
I have to wonder where all you looney tunes come from. Do you have normal lives, jobs, etcetera? I shudder to think you are among us in society.
“It would be the same as if the muslims all of a sudden decided to call themselves Christian. You can call a baby diaper a lunch pail but you will not eat out of it.”
That is a good point, it just wouldn’t work.
Mitt needs to give a religious speech?? How about Huckabee giving a speech to explain why he has to ram his evangelicalism up everyones ...we’ll, you get the picture. When he offered to give Guilliani bible help, I couldn’t find a barf bag big enough. I find this whole Mormon religious ‘persecution’ very disturbing and, yes, un-American. If that’s all the voters have an issue with, then we have a very qualified candidate indeed.
You’re sick.
“Personally I turn to the leaders and experts of the major Christion churches for the answer to what is a cult, when they all agree that the mormons are a cult, then I accept their expertise.”
I went to Catholic school for 12 years. We studied and discussed all religions. There were never any statements or comments referring to Mormonism as a cult. Only the Evangelicals (of course) think it is.
Matt. 7;21-23 Many will say to me in that day Lord, Lord . . . depart from me ye that work iniquity.
Are you sure that, with your going around excluding people, he doesn’t mean you?
LDS are Christian!
It is the LDS that strive to keep the Lord Jesus Christ Commandments we don’t look for wiggle room or make excuses of why it’s not realistic.
LDS knows that the Atonement is alive and well a gift from Jesus Christ who, enables those who strive to Keep the Lord’s Commandments that it is possible for all those who want to walk the Lord’s walk!
We believe in the restoration of all things pleasant and unpleasant!
Matt. 17
11 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come, and restore all things.
Luke 1: 17
17 And he shall go before him in the spirit and power of Elias, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just; to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.
D&C 27
6 And also with Elias, to whom I have committed the keys of bringing to pass the restoration of all things spoken by the mouth of all the holy prophets since the world began, concerning the last days
Mal. 4: 5
5 ¶ Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
D&C 110: 14, 16
14 Behold, the time has fully come, which was spoken of by the mouth of Malachi—testifying that he [Elijah] should be sent, before the great and dreadful day of the Lord come—
16 Therefore, the keys of this dispensation are committed into your hands; and by this ye may know that the great and dreadful day of the Lord is near, even at the doors.
Acts 3:
21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
A Christian is one who follows Christ’s instructions:
Matthew 7:12
“So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.”
Misrepresenting people does not fit that prescription.
It is the LDS that strive to keep the Lord Jesus Christ Commandments we don’t look for wiggle room or make excuses of why it’s not realistic.
And the LDS also teach God had sex with Mary.
"The birth of the Saviour was as natural as are the births of our children; it was the result of natural action. He partook of flesh and blood - was begotten of his Father, as we were of our fathers." (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 8: p. 115)
"Christ was begotten by an Immortal Father in the same way that mortal men are begotten by mortal fathers" (Mormon Doctrine," by Bruce McConkie, p. 547)
[And, next year, we will be voting for a PRESIDENT, not a PASTOR.]
Except Mitt is a Bishop.
Since you think you are cute with your Shock and Awe statement Grunthor, you should at least be able to tell us what you mean by that?
Was Lucufer also begotten as was Jesus?
I know the LDS never said that Grunthor !
Isn't Lucifer a Spirit who never received a body?
Like other Spirit Children of Heavenly Father who did obtain a body?
Are we not all Sons and Daugthers of God, but Jesus who also is the Son of God is the Only one begotten of the Father the rest of us enter earth through descendants of Adam and Eve.
Since Lucifer was a spirit child among others children he would be a brother to them.
Job 38
4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding.
5 Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it?
6 Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;
7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Isaiah 14
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
Rev. 8
10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;
2 Ne. 23
19 And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees’ excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.
2 Ne. 24
1 For the Lord will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land; and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.
D&C 76:
26 And was called Perdition, for the heavens wept over him—he was Lucifer, a son of the morning.
Gamecock you say you are a Christian yet the way the scriptures tell the story and your version take something that is sacred and become tawdry in your mind!
Neither of these two statement are crude as presented by the Lord's servants, it is you who like to do Shock and Awe!
It seems all of you who are critics of the LDS like to present things feel you will get follers to join in with your warp minds!
Trying to create Fear is NOT of the Lord, Gamecock
Luke 1
30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.
31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: (Heavenly Father) and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
"The birth of the Saviour was as natural as are the births of our children; it was the result of natural action. He partook of flesh and blood - was begotten of his Father, as we were of our fathers." (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 8: p. 115)
"Christ was begotten by an Immortal Father in the same way that mortal men are begotten by mortal fathers" (Mormon Doctrine," by Bruce McConkie, p. 547)
NO this hatred is NOT a part of traditional conservatism, precisely for the reason you state. Amazing what a motivator hatred is for some.
"Anyway, as awkwardly as this NYT article is titled, I am glad to see Romney doing this. It is the perfect thing. If he doesn’t step out and publicly address his faith and where he stands on it, then it will just dog him and nip at his heels. This is a very good move on Mitt’s part."
We are much agreed. : )
Strongly agreed.
McConkie served in the First Council of the Seventy of the LDS Church from 1946 until his calling to the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles in 1972, where he served until his death in 1985.
Was McConkie censored for publishing his book? Nope!
Is there a published retraction of his work? No again.
The second edition of Mormon Doctrine, with its approved revisions, was published in 1966. Horne states, “The most obvious difference between the two editions is a more moderate tone.”[3]
Another revision was made to the book in 1978 after Church President Spencer W. Kimball received the revelation on the priesthood being extended to all worthy male members.
Disassembling, bronco n00b?
“I went to Catholic school for 12 years. We studied and discussed all religions. There were never any statements or comments referring to Mormonism as a cult.”
As much as we all want to learn about your personal life,
wouldn’t it be easier and more relevant to just tell us what the Catholic position is? Oddly enough you do tell what the protestant position is.
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