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1 posted on 12/02/2007 4:35:28 AM PST by Daffynition
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Only one sea Admiral signed. Homos often end up missing morning muster.


2 posted on 12/02/2007 4:41:00 AM PST by Jacquerie
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"none is of the stature of Gen. John Shalikashvili"

A legend in his own mind.

3 posted on 12/02/2007 4:43:29 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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1. 28 retired flags is a drop in the bucket. I’d wager its about 1% of all those retired.
2. About 1/3 of these appear to be medical officers—not combat rated.
3. About 1/2 of these are Brigadier Generals. While that sounds impressive, BGs are often bitter ‘cause they never got that 2nd star. In some ways, that looks worse than a Colonel who never got selected for BG.
4. I don’t see any 4-stars on that list.


4 posted on 12/02/2007 4:45:38 AM PST by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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Shouldn’t General Bendover be on that list?


5 posted on 12/02/2007 4:47:46 AM PST by Nextrush (Proudly uncommitted in the 2008 race for president for now,, but McCain and Paul never)
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And I say keep it the same.

There is a difference between “don’t ask, don’t tell” and serving openly.

Those who have served in the lower ranks understand that difference.

To those wishing to change it, it’s just an agenda.


6 posted on 12/02/2007 4:51:18 AM PST by PeteB570 (So why did the EO NCO have to be black? It's EO Right?)
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Gannett owned, shills for the bitch. It will happen if she becomes queen bee.
9 posted on 12/02/2007 4:54:01 AM PST by boomop1 (there you go again)
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How many Marines were on that list?......er. Oh none. Nevermind.

We're just to backwards and want to kill things.

11 posted on 12/02/2007 4:56:56 AM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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“scholarly data show” that 65,000...

Respectfully, scholarly data advanced by whom?

It says right here that "don't ask, don't tell" has been the de facto policy since at least the French and Indian War. I suspect that homosexuals were enlisting or being commissioned when Joshua fought the Battle of Jericho. The thing of it is is I don't see data from these "scholars" regarding the improvement of the military that will ensue when we put a question on the application requesting a designation.

12 posted on 12/02/2007 4:59:16 AM PST by stevem
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Sounds like all of them are desk jockeys.

If any were awarded meadals it was a john kerry style of a medal to get rid of an incompetent.

As for the “stature” comment...

He seemed to creat a bosnian bloodbath quite well.

This only points out we need to go BACK TO the DO ask and DO expel.


21 posted on 12/02/2007 5:08:49 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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I respectfully ask this: How many retired Generals are there in the US Armed Forces? I have tried to get some estimate, and couldnt... does anyone have an estimate?
If there are 10s of thousands, well I could probably find 50 that would endorse anything.


23 posted on 12/02/2007 5:10:58 AM PST by John Felix
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I may be wrong, but I don’t see the names of Wesley “Perfumed Prince” Clark and Paul “Walking Small” Eaton. They’re cinched-up to Ms. Hillary’s apron strings so what is their (ahem) position?


25 posted on 12/02/2007 5:12:00 AM PST by paddles
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...“scholarly data show” that 65,000 gay men and lesbians now serve...

BS. It's not that high.

I want to see the "scholarly data". I'll bet it's from some gay "rights" organization.

27 posted on 12/02/2007 5:19:05 AM PST by Lurking in Kansas (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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Personally I want to thank CNN for ambushing the GOP candidates with this issue once again for all to see that the liberals have absolutely nothing to bring to the table but the past...

There is no future with these shlups, and to have their dogs bring it up again illustrates this point...

One thing after serving our country “in the trenches” so to speak is really kinda funny when you get right down to it...

Not once during the whole debate about homosexuals serving in the armed forces for this country was any rank and file interviewd or testified before congress or given a chance to tell what it is “we” would have to face either way, hoew this issue really was going to be handled...

I personally knew of only one person that was in my “division/department” while I was in the fleet...And that person never admitted, or demonstrated anything but professionalism and integrity to the job...Do I excuse his desires or tendencies??? No, did I approve??? No...

Having said all of this, those of us who have served and are serving (rank and file) know why this is a serious issue, but also we are smart enough, more than any politician, and sometimes even all of these flag officers know what the problems are with this...

It has nothing to do with the socio-interaction between heterosexual and homosexual service members...As much as this is what the politicians want to engineer into the armed services of this country...

The prevalence of adverse medical conditions is what the risks are with allowing this to continue to be a wink wink nod nod issue in the armed services...Plain and simple...Albiet it is a slower transference of conditions because units (especially Navy) your emergency blood supply is the guy or gal right next to you...And thats just the first of a few I could rattle off, but I’ll let y’all figure out the rest...

Soi thats why after years I have to publically say something thats been bugging me since the 80’s...

No one wants to get the opinion of those who are directly going to have to deal with this issue, and not a bunch of desk jockeys (with all due respect!) And the three flag officers I have served with in the past, who know me personally, would agree with me on this...

Adm. Rodney Rempt

Adm. William Sutton

This is never going to be an issue that warrants the amount of time and hand0wringing that it has due to the lack of vision by our government...I do not blame or disagree with much that the officers who have been asked to testify to this issue have done so...

It’s just another demonstration/illustration of how elected officials continue to fail the armed services of this country...


28 posted on 12/02/2007 5:19:59 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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Many “tell” when they don’t want to keep their military obligation.

Sailor falls in love with a member of the opposite sex: Too bad, write ‘em a letter.

Faggot falls in love: Unsuitability discharge.


38 posted on 12/02/2007 5:48:28 AM PST by OneLoyalAmerican (Truth was the first casualty in the MSM's war on President Bush.)
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Care to guess what’s going to happen if the dhimmis win in ‘08?


40 posted on 12/02/2007 5:52:27 AM PST by Pietro
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BTW FOLKS

Look at the meme here.

Don’t ask don’t tell was put in place as a prosecutorial adjustment to the DO EXPELL policy.

repealing don’t ask don’t tell would go back to the mandatory expulsion policy.

these homosexual generals are trying to WRITE A NEW POLICY.

This is VERY ORWELLIAN.

It implies homosexuals were allowed to serve.


41 posted on 12/02/2007 5:54:36 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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The queer issue will cause MANY to quit the military,,,which is EXACTLY what it is intended to do. THIMK! and try to wake up!


45 posted on 12/02/2007 6:03:14 AM PST by Waco ( YC)
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Bet most of these were mominated for General under the Clinton administration, so I would discount this list.


48 posted on 12/02/2007 6:10:25 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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David Horowitz warned the country about 25 years ago that the radical left had its sights on the US military. It was the only major institution not radicalized.

The homo issue goes way beyond behavior by consenting adults.

If it is allowed, are we prepared to witness San Francisco Folsom type fairs by our military personnel? Are we prepared for “hate” crimes in the UCMJ? Are we prepared to see otherwise patriotic people not enlist because open homosexuality is allowed and may become encouraged? I’m not saying any of these are certain, they are posssible and must be considered.

Bottom line: Just how could homosexuality jeopardize the mission of our Armed Forces?

52 posted on 12/02/2007 6:20:26 AM PST by Jacquerie
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A bunch of one and two star officers, and about a third are medical.
I’m glad that I wasn’t in the Artillery. LOL.


60 posted on 12/02/2007 6:45:38 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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