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To: calcowgirl
I’d try to change it, but I am not Ghouliani.
2 posted on
11/30/2007 4:00:34 PM PST by
dynachrome
(Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
To: calcowgirl
He's just basically confirmed my suspicion he will choose Huckabee as his VP.
sw
3 posted on
11/30/2007 4:03:54 PM PST by
spectre
(spectre's wife (It's Illegal immigration, Stupid)
To: calcowgirl
Not that he had it, but that just cost him my vote.
4 posted on
11/30/2007 4:04:38 PM PST by
mtbopfuyn
(I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..
To: calcowgirl
While it might be difficult, the law obviously needs to be changed on this. No one should be considered an American citizen just because they were born of illegal aliens within our borders.
How widely known is it that Giulianni favors this rubbish, and why is he allowed to run as a Republican?
6 posted on
11/30/2007 4:13:25 PM PST by
ProCivitas
(Duncan Hunter = Pro-Family + Fair Trade = Pro-America. www.gohunter08.com)
To: calcowgirl
Big legal business likes slave labor, and big illegal drug cartels like open borders. And with money is the mother’s milk of all things political. Add to that native born Americans bought into birth control and small families, and I would say we are between a rock and a hard place when it comes to really changing the dynamics of this massive problem.
To: calcowgirl
While Giuliani is generally wrong about most social issues, he is standing on firm ground here.
It should be obvious to anyone with a passing familiarity with the US Constitution that we have birthright citizenship.
If you want to end brithright citizenship, you will have to amend the Constitution. No state or federal law that tried to eliminate birthright citizenship would ever pass Constitutional muster in the federal courts - nor should it, because such a law would be blatantly unconstitutional.
And even if you do amend the Constitution, you will not be able to revoke the citizenship of anyone already born in the USA to an illegal alien, because not only our Constitution, but our entire legal system and the common law system from which it emerged, rejects the concept of ex post facto law entirely.
9 posted on
11/30/2007 4:48:33 PM PST by
wideawake
(Why is it that so many self-proclaimed "Constitutionalists" know so little about the Constitution?)
To: calcowgirl
That's a very delicate balance that's been arrived at, and I wouldn't change that Oh, BS. It's been ignored, that's all. No one has ever adjudicated it, and every attempt to clarify it by legislation has been stymied.
It's the PC default position since the politicians are shaking in their boots about doing their job.
It offends common sense that illegal alien parents are the people who get to determine who the American citizens will be in the future.
To: calcowgirl
Any one with a brain knows this anchor baby thing is a mutated interpretation of the law.
Go away, Rudy, take Huckabee with ya.
12 posted on
11/30/2007 4:52:27 PM PST by
AuntB
(" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
To: calcowgirl; Carry_Okie
Carry_Okie, would you like to educate Mr. Rudy. Someone needs to.
13 posted on
11/30/2007 4:53:43 PM PST by
AuntB
(" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
To: calcowgirl
Republican White House hopeful Rudy Giuliani said Friday he wouldn't try to change laws that make citizens of children born in the U.S. to illegal immigrants, noting that it's a matter determined by the Constitution. There's no new law needed. The whole anchor baby for illegal aliens rule was brought to us via executive policy decades ago and can be undone the same way. Let the illegal apologists sue up to the USSC. Since Giuliani the liberal won't go there we need someone who will. Or maybe a state like Oklahoma can challenge it themselves.
To: calcowgirl
Just one more example that Giuliani must have slept through his class in Constitutional Law.
Yeah, he's really going to appoint SC Justices like Roberts and Alito since he hasn't a clue what the Constitution actually says having never read it himself.
21 posted on
11/30/2007 5:39:19 PM PST by
penowa
To: calcowgirl
When Fred Thompson said it might be time to review the practice of granting citizenship to every child born on American soil, he didnt acknowledge the seismic shift such an idea represents.
Citizenship by birth has been prescribed by the Constitution since 1868 and upheld for 109 years by the Supreme Court but the Republican presidential candidate made it sound anachronistic.
I think that law was created at another time and place for valid reasons, the former U.S. senator from Tennessee said earlier this month. It probably needs to be revisited.
Thompsons comments have angered Hispanic leaders many of them Republicans who say they are a crass attempt to court the GOP base.
http://commonsenseamerica.net/blog1/?p=1496
27 posted on
11/30/2007 6:03:12 PM PST by
Sybeck1
(Join me for the Million Minutemen March --- Summer 2008!!)
To: calcowgirl
That’s why the parents come here.
“It’s the illegals’ children, stupid!!!”
33 posted on
11/30/2007 6:42:48 PM PST by
Finalapproach29er
(Dems will impeach Bush in 2008; mark my words.)
To: calcowgirl
Stick a fork in him....he’s done.
To: calcowgirl
Giuliani: Kids of Illegal Aliens OK.
Whooa...What a big surprise.
Just what we need, 4 more years of another leftist liberal Republican, attempting to undermine and compromise what is left of America, while portraying himself as a conservative.
40 posted on
11/30/2007 6:58:47 PM PST by
dragnet2
To: calcowgirl
that is why I’m not backing him. too liberal
54 posted on
11/30/2007 7:47:26 PM PST by
television is just wrong
(deport all illegal aliens NOW. Put all AMERICANS TO WORK FIRST. END Welfare)
To: calcowgirl
OK... So, if during the course of a burglary of his house, the burglar's girlfriend goes into labor and delivers, the baby can stay. That’s what Julie Annie is saying.
Then you take care of them Julie. And, not with my money!
55 posted on
11/30/2007 7:47:42 PM PST by
Barnacle
(Hunter 2008)
To: calcowgirl
The constitution says that somebody who is born here is an American citizen. There’s nothing in the wording that says all the relatives are allowed to stay here. And there is nothing preventing the American-born child from coming back to this country when they are old enough to do so.
87 posted on
12/01/2007 10:24:12 AM PST by
Bernard
("Rare, Safe and Legal" - what an ideal Immigration Policy should look like.)
To: calcowgirl
Republican White House hopeful Rudy Giuliani said Friday he wouldn't try to change laws that make citizens of children born in the U.S. to illegal immigrants, noting that it's a matter determined by the Constitution.But yet Rudy is doing his absolute best to muddle and restrict the Constitution when it comes to his 'gun grabbing' attempts to restrict gun ownership and redefine Second Amendment.
Rudy is shameless.
128 posted on
12/02/2007 12:22:09 PM PST by
stockstrader
(We need a conservative who will ENERGIZE the Party, not a liberal who will DEMORALIZE it!)
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