Posted on 11/30/2007 3:59:11 PM PST by calcowgirl
BLUFFTON, S.C. (AP) — Republican White House hopeful Rudy Giuliani said Friday he wouldn't try to change laws that make citizens of children born in the U.S. to illegal immigrants, noting that it's a matter determined by the Constitution.
"That's a very delicate balance that's been arrived at, and I wouldn't change that," Giuliani said in response to a question while campaigning at Sun City Hilton Head, a sprawling retirement community down the South Carolina coast from Charleston.
In Wednesday night's Republican debate, Giuliani and nomination rival Mitt Romney traded accusations of being soft on illegal immigration, and Giuliani took pains to deny that New York was a "sanctuary city" for illegal immigrants during his tenure as mayor.
While New York has never used the designation, it offers protections — allowing illegal immigrants to report crimes, send kids to school or seek medical treatment without fear of being reported — similar to those in cities that label themselves sanctuary cities.
Children born in the U.S. to illegal immigrants already are American citizens, and Giuliani said he would not try to change that.
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Yeah, he's really going to appoint SC Justices like Roberts and Alito since he hasn't a clue what the Constitution actually says having never read it himself.
This thread completely nukes your post.
The Constitution is what the SC Court says it is. Doesn’t matter what the Founders meant when they wrote it, no longer matters what an Amendment was intended to do when passed; no longer needs to be amended, just needs 5 votes by lawyers in black robes and an opinion conjured from thin air.
Wow. I never thought of it in the context of an invading army with women dropping babies.
No. Not in a million years would those kids be citizens.
Thank you.
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Wrong. If you read the constitution and its amendments, no where do you find birthright citizenship. In fact the only people given citizenship due to birthright were black slaves through the fourteenth amendment. They have that right because they were subjects of the United States and did not have another country to return to.
No, the Constitution requires no amending. I hope someone in govt. decides to challenge birthright citizenship. That is the only way we will be able to get the proper interpretation from the Supreme Court and this anchor baby nonsense can come to an end.
When Fred Thompson said it might be time to review the practice of granting citizenship to every child born on American soil, he didn’t acknowledge the seismic shift such an idea represents.
Citizenship by birth has been prescribed by the Constitution since 1868 — and upheld for 109 years by the Supreme Court — but the Republican presidential candidate made it sound anachronistic.
“I think that law was created at another time and place for valid reasons,” the former U.S. senator from Tennessee said earlier this month. “It probably needs to be revisited.”
Thompson’s comments have angered Hispanic leaders — many of them Republicans — who say they are a crass attempt to court the GOP base.
http://commonsenseamerica.net/blog1/?p=1496
Prepare for kook bombardment in...oh, wait, already started. :p
Thanks for pointing this out. Unfortunately, some people need it.
I guess you and I aren’t sophisticated enough to get their “nuanced” view of the Constitution. I’ll even bet you’re one of those knuckle-draggers (like me, lol) who think that the 2nd amendment means “Everyone gets to own guns.”
Don’t you have your own website?
You must be reading a different Constitution:
A common misconception is that the Constitution through the Fourteenth Amendment confers citizenship upon everyone born in the United States, whether or not they were born to an illegal alien.Actually, the Constitution itself does not provide citizenship to those born of illegal parents...
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I'll second that motion!
Uh... not really. But I get the point.
That’s why the parents come here.
“It’s the illegals’ children, stupid!!!”
Stick a fork in him....he’s done.
If this were true you would be able to offer some refutation of my case, however feeble.
But you can't even do that.
No, I do not.
The pro-Giuliani website called "wideawakes" was begun by former FReeper MadIvan.
He took my nine-year old screenname for his site without so much as telling me or asking my permission.
I call Clemenza - certainly no Giuliani supporter - as my witness that I have absolutely nothing to do with that website or any other crew of Giuliani boosters.
I am referring to a document called the US Constitution.
You are referring to another document known as "The US Constitution according to the personal opinion of Vinnie Gioia."
The Fourteenth Amendment does not restrict its application to black slaves, but makes it clear that it applies to persons born in the United States.
I see. I was banned for that year and missed all the “fun.”
Whooa...What a big surprise.
Just what we need, 4 more years of another leftist liberal Republican, attempting to undermine and compromise what is left of America, while portraying himself as a conservative.
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