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If any of the Dems become president, I don't think anyone can stop socialized medicine.

1 posted on 11/30/2007 9:50:20 AM PST by FocusNexus
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If any of the Dems become president, I don't think anyone can stop socialized medicine.
It won't just be socialized medicine. They'll tax and spend us into a depression then build a billion bureaucracies to cope. It will be all socialism, as far as the eye can see.
2 posted on 11/30/2007 9:52:42 AM PST by samtheman
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I wonder if he is providing any healthcare coverage for his campaign workers, does any one know?


3 posted on 11/30/2007 9:53:02 AM PST by Perdogg (Elections have consequences.)
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Or he could just sell his house.


4 posted on 11/30/2007 9:53:09 AM PST by JZelle
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Be afraid. Be very, very afraid.


5 posted on 11/30/2007 9:53:09 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Ron Paul put the cuckoo in my Cocoa Puffs)
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If it doesn’t come from the mouth of Elisabeth ‘The Big E’ Edwards, its meaningless.

As we’ve seen over the past year, whenever something is ‘important’ to the Breck Girl, his wife utters commentary about it.


6 posted on 11/30/2007 9:54:31 AM PST by Badeye (Free Willie!)
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He is proposing the Massachusetts health care system- works the same, you don’t sign up, they take your state tax personal exemption and “escrow” it for you.

If you still don’t sign up, there are escalating tax penalties.


7 posted on 11/30/2007 9:55:16 AM PST by Ender Wiggin
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So if you have good health coverage now we’d have to cancel it and get this government thing??


8 posted on 11/30/2007 9:55:24 AM PST by SkyDancer ("There is no distinctly Native American criminal class...save Congress - Mark Twain")
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I have heard some libertarian-minded people (Steven Landsburg, for one) entertain the possibility that mandatory health insurance, like mandatory car insurance, is justifiably. They do not generally consider the practical consequences of turning over the entire health-care industry to government supervision. On both practical grounds (innovation would grind to a halt) and historical grounds (health care, if it isn’t already, would become irretrievably controlled by the government) the current push toward increasing “coverage” is extremely dangerous.


9 posted on 11/30/2007 9:56:04 AM PST by untenured
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Smells like WillardCare.


10 posted on 11/30/2007 9:56:47 AM PST by Petronski (Reject the liberal troika: romney, giuliani, mccain)
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I’m asking an honest question because I’ve always wondered about some other federal programs and policies. Can anyone tell me what part of the Constitution would authorize the government to do this?


11 posted on 11/30/2007 9:57:00 AM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (Mind your own business.)
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FYI and ping lists.

Fascism with the elite liberals in control will make the old Euro Fascists look warm and cuddly.


14 posted on 11/30/2007 9:59:40 AM PST by Grampa Dave (e)
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Although our foreign “guests”, as now, will of course be exempt.


16 posted on 11/30/2007 10:00:06 AM PST by tumblindice
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Hope he can get the healthcare industry to go along with his scheme. Our family doctor of 29 years has just stopped accepting Blue Cross because they have made payments to him so low.


17 posted on 11/30/2007 10:00:45 AM PST by leadhead (Democracy can withstand anything but democrats)
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I wonder how this would affect us retired military people, who do not purchase insurance, but rely on our military benefits (Tricare) for our health care needs.


18 posted on 11/30/2007 10:01:42 AM PST by fredhead (What this world needs is a few more Rednecks - Charlie Daniels)
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“When somebody chooses not to be in our health care system, then what they’re choosing is that the rest of America is going to pay for their health care”...

Choice above all, John. Choice above all. My body, my choice.

Go sit on the Festivus Pole and F#CK YOURSELF, John.


19 posted on 11/30/2007 10:02:41 AM PST by Secret Agent Man
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The effect of this is to substitute tyranny for liberty, for here is the simple end of all this: he is willing to send armed agents to force your grandmother, your son or your wife into this program. Any benefit program that is enforced by the threat of deadly force is totally, absolutely the opposite of the ideas expressed by the Founders in the Constitution.

Edwards’ plan also proves that F.A. Hayek, in The Road to Serfdom, understood the dangers and indeed the evil of good intentions expressed in socialism: that when government substituted its choices in the form of directives, rules and laws to nullify, negate and preclude peaceful and mutually beneficial exchange, it could not but introduce distortions, and temp people to find ways to avoid the edicts by various means. This only leads to more imposition of even more draconian directives, rules and laws to force people to obey the first set of directives, rules and laws. The end result is always the same: the destruction of liberty and personal choice and the increase in economic inefficiency.

20 posted on 11/30/2007 10:02:59 AM PST by theBuckwheat
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The Silk Pony wants to force people to enroll in his health plan whether they want to or not. State mandated fascism at its finest.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

21 posted on 11/30/2007 10:03:17 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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“Everything not prohibited is compulsory”. The motto of the Democraps.


23 posted on 11/30/2007 10:03:57 AM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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"When somebody chooses not to be in our health care system, then what they're choosing is that the rest of America is going to pay for their health care"

Like illegals aren't...

24 posted on 11/30/2007 10:04:21 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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Well, I give Edwards a LOT of credit!

At least he’s honest about being a Communist, versus the other Democrats who are lying about being Communists!


25 posted on 11/30/2007 10:04:55 AM PST by Obadiah
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