If anyone from his campaign is reading this thread, please tell him their country was "given back" June 28, 2004.
Posted on 11/28/2007 3:59:54 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #10 – St. Petersburg, Florida 11/28/07 - Official Discussion Thread
CNN will hold this debate, hosted by Anderson Cooper, with submitted questions in video form via YouTube.
8pm ET/5pm PT
Hosted by Anderson Cooper
Candidates participating:
“In 1994, Republican Michael Huffington lost his bid for the US Senate after acknowledging he had employed an illegal immigrant as a nanny for five years.”++
That’s because he EMPLOYED (meaning he was the ‘boss’) the nanny LIVING INSIDE HIS HOME. Romney hired a landscaping company, who just happened to have an illegal immigrant as an employee, do work on his house. He didn’t own the company. BIG DIFFERENCE.
Hunter and Tancredo have no chance, but I’m not sure they should be excluded from the debates. There were some very good conservative points made tonight, and Tancredo and Hunter made a number of them. They know they have little or no chance, so they can let it fly. Hunter: “I will never apologize for the USA”. Bet you wish you said that, Rudy? Tancredo called Huckabee on being a big spender. Tancredo said, ‘too bad’ to the guys who want more H2B visa workers, said pay Americans a fair wage, and you’ll have workers. I don’t think these guys are necessarily taking away from the other conservatives like Thompson, and maybe Romney, but are useful in pointing out the liberal positions of guys like Giuliani and Huckabee.
Romney kept Harry Spence as the head of DSS for his entire term in office. After four years, one would think Romney would have had some impact on DSS, right? At least Bush put in Bolton for awhile.
Yeah, about as much influence as Prez Bush has had on the State Dept. or the CIA, or other depts regardless of whom he appoints to head them. Plus, the “homo” award came right at the end of Mitt’s term as Gov., in August, I believe, and he was out of office 4 months later. At that point, and after DSS had already gone and done this, it was too late to do much about it, if anything. But that’s all right, I understand you dislike Romney muchly. Enjoy yourself. Hope he wins just to see you on threads being aggravated and agitated.
If anyone from his campaign is reading this thread, please tell him their country was "given back" June 28, 2004.
If the media ever starts covering it we will find out if that, coupled with his legalization desires make a difference.
In Hunter's case, it's not even necessarily winning the nomination. It's "Is this the kind of of man I want representing me at the national level?" Is he worth investing in? For that reason even if he does not win the money, the calls, and the votes for Hunter are not wasted. Not by a long shot.
Rudy’s price actually dived 6 points before the debate. I suppose that was in anticipation of his great performance.
Here’s the Intrade forum discussion on the anticipated Rudy drop. I think it started just before the debate.
https://bb.intrade.com/intradeForum/posts/list/1836.page
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Laugh not to cry, right? By the way, I'm a two-first name guy myself. Actually, I have two names that can be first OR last names.....
Hank
I loved Mitt’s response regarding the young black boy on YouTube actually having a father who cared standing next to him. He was so right on with that one.
He was neither young nor a punk. Remember the gay retired General from the California national reserve? The guy that sounded like he’d spent his 42 years there and in the Army as a drill sarge? Yeah, that guy. Member of Hill’s Gay/Lesbian/Transsexual Steering Committee.
++”In 1994, Republican Michael Huffington lost his bid for the US Senate after acknowledging he had employed an illegal immigrant as a nanny for five years.”++
***I lived in Huffington’s district at the time. The guy was absolutely useless. Feinstein said that he had done basically nothing, no introduced legislation, no sponsored legislation, nothing. He bought his way into that congressional seat and unseated a solid republican. I had personal dealings with both the Huffington office and the Feinstein office, and as a republican it pains me to say that Feinstein’s office at least answered the phone.
I doubt it. Huckabee’s not going anywhere. The media are giving him a huge push, which is somewhat worrisome to me, as the leftist media’s agenda is certainly not my agenda. For me, he’s the worst of all worlds. I am a fiscal conservative, foreign policy conservative, social libertarian. I don’t care if you’re gay, although I don’t want them in the military, because the military people say they don’t want gays in the military. I don’t care if you want an abortion, as long as you get it in the first tri-mester. Huckabee looks pretty smooth, and his past pro-illegal stances really aren’t all that different than Giuliani and Romney. He might be able to just spin away from his pro-tax record in Arkansas.
On the plus side, I think he’ll hammer Hillary Clinton like a nail. Of course, as President, I think he’ll make me long for the days of George W. Bush....., but at least he’s not Hillary Clinton.
Does he mean what McCain means ie amnesty through earned citizenship isn’t amnesty?.
And what’s the deal with his comments e.g
“Huckabee said the bill, seeking to forbid public assistance and voting rights to undocumented immigrants, “inflames those who are racist and bigots and makes them think there’s a real problem. But there’s not.”
http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/000718.html
Am I missing the context or is he asserting racism upon those whom see illegal immigration as a big problem?
Just saw the youtube pro-file for the young man who asked the Bible question. He seems to be sincere Christian - so I guess I was probably wrong in my analysis of him. Something bothers me about his eyes but reading his profile which has been up for several months he sounds sincere. So, I take back what I said about him being an athiest or some sort of cult type.
I remember the race when the media portrayed Huffington as trying to buy the Senate seat with his 75 million net worth, they didn’t mention that the Feinsteins were worth 50 million.
Huffington was no catch, but he would have been better than Feinstein.
“Old poll. CNN isn’t even running a poll for this debate.”
Current poll.
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/debates/scorecard/youtube.debate.112807/
“Old poll. CNN isn’t even running a poll for this debate.”
Current poll.
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/debates/scorecard/youtube.debate.112807/
I don’t watch CNN so I know squat about Anderson Cooper, except that he’s the son of Gloria Vanderbilt of poor-little-rich-girl-blue-jeans fame. I remember an old Good Housekeeping that featured her boys’ bedrooms in the early 80’s and then I read in the New York Times that one of her sons committed suicide by jumping from the window of the very room featured in the earlier magazine. Skip 20 years and Anderson Cooper is on CNN, which I have watched one time. Wikipedia has mixed information about his gayness, both outing him and then saying he wants a family and children. Who knows....more importantly, who really cares? Another gay liberal...big deal.
“On the plus side, I think he’ll hammer Hillary Clinton like a nail. Of course, as President, I think he’ll make me long for the days of George W. Bush....., but at least he’s not Hillary Clinton.”
Who know!? I think the differences are he’s a better speaker than Bush. We ought to nominate someone that’s more conservative. The way we’re going, it just seems like we’re defacing what conservatism is (via bad nominations).
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