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Row over 'tree man' virus samples
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 11-26-2007 | Felix Lowe

Posted on 11/26/2007 10:52:06 AM PST by blam

Row over 'tree man' virus samples

By Felix Lowe and agencies
Last Updated: 5:00pm GMT 26/11/2007

An Indonesian fisherman who developed tree-like growths on his hands and feet is at the centre of an international medical spat after his country's health minister criticised doctors trying to treat him.

Indonesia's health minister, Siti Fadilah Supari, lambasted the US doctor currently treating the 35-year-old man, who has the rare affliction caused by the Human Papilloma Virus.

Indonesia's health minister Siti Fadilah Supari (second right) inspects Dede's tree-like growths

Mrs Supari is angry that Dr Anthony Gaspari has taken blood and tissue samples out of the country to the United States in a bid to diagnose the illness. She claims such samples could be used in the future to make vaccines that the poor could not afford.

Developing nations such as Indonesia risk exploitation unless they maintain control over their virus strains, Mrs Supari said.

But her comments have now offended Dr Gaspari, an American dermatologist at the University of Maryland, who maintains that, while he took the samples without permission, his sole motivation was getting treatment for the man.

Known simply as Dede, the man, who lives in a village south of the capital Jakarta, has massive root-like warts growing from his arms and legs which have gone untreated for years.

"We did take samples, and the reason we did was to render a diagnosis. We did it for humanitarian reasons, to help the patient," Dr Gaspari said, stressing his willingness to put in writing that the samples were not for commercial use.

Mrs Supari, who has famously refused to share bird flu samples with international scientists, made her comments on Sunday after returning from a World Health Organisation (WHO) conference in Geneva.

"We are offended because the samples were taken from Dede without our permission," she told reporters at the hospital where the man was being treated. "If they are taken abroad, they could become lucrative commodities."

The intergovernmental conference was aimed at rebuilding a global system for sharing viruses. Indonesia is the nation the worst hit by bird flu, with a total of 91 human deaths recorded.

Mrs Supari has, however, steadfastly refused to share samples of the deadly H5N1 strain of the disease until she receives assurances they will not be used to make expensive pandemic vaccines.

For its part, WHO wants to make sure the virus has not mutated to a form that spreads more easily between people.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antiamericanism; avianinfluenza; birdflu; blameamericafirst; indonesia; man; medicalresearch; money; row; sitifadilahsupari; supari; tree; treeman; vaccines
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1 posted on 11/26/2007 10:52:08 AM PST by blam
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To: Smokin' Joe

Virus Ping.


2 posted on 11/26/2007 10:52:35 AM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam

Better for people to die than risk a company making money


3 posted on 11/26/2007 10:54:17 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: AppyPappy

Gives whole new meaning to “Getting a woody”.............


4 posted on 11/26/2007 10:55:08 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: blam

I wonder why that poor man hasn’t died from secondary infections? His “hands” look like a good place for that.


5 posted on 11/26/2007 10:55:19 AM PST by Jeff Chandler ("Liberals want to save the world for the children they aren't having." -Mark Steyn)
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To: blam
I’m gobsmacked at this woman’s greed.
6 posted on 11/26/2007 10:57:20 AM PST by mother22wife21
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To: blam

What a friggin’ moron. Probably a socialist.....


7 posted on 11/26/2007 10:57:30 AM PST by nuke rocketeer (File CONGRESS.SYS corrupted: Re-boot Washington D.C (Y/N)?)
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To: blam
"We are offended because the samples were taken from Dede without our permission," she told reporters at the hospital where the man was being treated. "If they are taken abroad, they could become lucrative commodities."

Bigger question. Were they taken with Dede's permission? Or does "The State" own the patent on his illness?

8 posted on 11/26/2007 10:59:45 AM PST by weegee (End the Bush-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton-Clinton/Clinton-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton Oligarchy 1980-2012)
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To: blam

All those sex-starved NEA teachers should show that photo in their child sex education classes.


9 posted on 11/26/2007 11:01:02 AM PST by donna (Chickens grown in the USA; then processed in CHINA; then sold in the USA. Huh?)
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To: Red Badger

10 posted on 11/26/2007 11:01:13 AM PST by weegee (End the Bush-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton-Clinton/Clinton-Bush-Bush-Clinton/Clinton Oligarchy 1980-2012)
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To: blam
Developing nations such as Indonesia risk exploitation unless they maintain control over their virus strains, Mrs Supari said.

Huh? Is he trying to accuse America of using these infections for our benefit? Lemme guess, in this moron's next breath he criticized Americans for doing nothing to combat turd-world (did I say turd, I meant third) afflictions.

11 posted on 11/26/2007 11:02:20 AM PST by SwankyC
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To: blam

He can’t throw well but he’s a hell of a fielder.


12 posted on 11/26/2007 11:05:47 AM PST by Jaxter ("Vivit Post Funera Virtus")
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...

virus ping
(Thanks, blam!)


13 posted on 11/26/2007 11:06:41 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Thanks for the ping. I saw photos elsewhere of this poor man, how horrible for him. I doubt any blood samples would be of any profit to anyone, but I hope it could help him in some way.


14 posted on 11/26/2007 11:10:23 AM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: blam

“Mrs Supari has, however, steadfastly refused to share samples of the deadly H5N1 strain of the disease until she receives assurances they will not be used to make expensive pandemic vaccines.”

Yeah, wouldn’t want a vaccine after all.


15 posted on 11/26/2007 11:11:20 AM PST by driftdiver
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"Developing nations such as Indonesia risk exploitation unless they maintain control over their virus strains, Mrs Supari said."

As if the viruses are an asset.....is that the argument? Is there any mystery to why these countries remain mired in poverty and disease? Unbelievable.....simply unbelievable.

16 posted on 11/26/2007 11:19:47 AM PST by DivaDelMar
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“We are offended because the samples were taken from Dede without our permission,”....

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Well, maybe Dede should be offended that your country is so backwards that no one there has been able to treat his horrible disease beyond shaking chicken entrails at it.


17 posted on 11/26/2007 11:23:48 AM PST by Bigg Red (Duncan Hunter in 2008!)
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To: DivaDelMar

It can be argued that the degree of success or advancement of the economic status of the bulk of the individuals in any country is pretty much dependant on the individual’s ability to have and hold and direct their personal property. This includes both low or non-existant confiscatory taxes, low levels of graft or bribery required to conduct business, freedom of movement, association and investment, and little or no banditry by government, militias or Achmed Blow.

The way this woman is talking about the country owning the viruses, their citizen’s blood, controlling treatment protocols, etc. I am assuming this is pretty much a third world country.


18 posted on 11/26/2007 11:31:21 AM PST by Geritol (Every knee will bow, but not before the last trump.)
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To: Geritol

The Republic of Indonesia is the world’s most populous Muslim-majority nation.

Need I say more?


19 posted on 11/26/2007 11:35:16 AM PST by null and void (No more Bushes/No more Clintons)
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To: blam

This lady should be cleaning bedpans, not blabbering about medical care policies. We can see where her brilliant policies have gotten this poor man.

Anything taken from this man’s body is his to give. He chose to give it to a doctor who is really trying to help him. Now it belongs to the doctor, unless the patient specifically retained some rights to it. His condition is so extraordinarily rare that any medication developed specifically from his sample would surely be one of those “orphan drugs” that has no profit potential at all. The extreme growths he has are the result of a problem with his immune system’s response to a common virus, not some extraordinarily virulent or rare strain of the virus.


20 posted on 11/26/2007 11:36:38 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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