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'No-Fault' = No Kids
Townhall ^ | 11/25/2007 | Kevin McCullough

Posted on 11/26/2007 10:26:35 AM PST by Responsibility2nd

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To: Responsibility2nd

Sad and foolish, I know, but I’ve been through this twice. As things stand today, if a woman wants a divorce, there’s nothing whatsoever the husband can do, except to be unrelenting in keeping up his involvement in the lives of his children. I have a 17 year-old son whose 45 year-old mother moved her 22 year-old boyfriend into the house. It didn’t last long after I cut off the money I was giving her, but by not paying, I was violating the law. Once the boyfriend was gone, I paid up and in the meanwhile provided money directly to my son.
My 14 year-old daughter - from another marriage - recently came to live with me after years of chaos with her mother. I am still legally required to pay the mother almost $500 a month in child support even though the child is living with and being supported by me. I simply can’t do both. Whatever I’ve had to go through is my own fault for my foolish choices, but I have done all that I could over the years to minimize the impact on my children - although it’s never enough. They’re old enough now to see things as they really are and that’s a relief, but it took constant contact and I am glad I did it.


21 posted on 11/26/2007 10:45:31 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Responsibility2nd
Article and your comment is proof that narrow self-serving special interests, in this case: men who fear and loathe their current and future ex-wives, will try to write policy that is just as bad as any other narrow special interest would write.

If the gays ever get involved in my marriage, I'll tell them the same thing I'll tell you. Butt out.

22 posted on 11/26/2007 10:47:17 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Emmett McCarthy
if a woman wants a divorce, there’s nothing whatsoever the husband can do

Works both ways.

23 posted on 11/26/2007 10:48:18 AM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: highball
Works both ways.

Technically, yes. Practically, ask yourself how many men initiate no fault divorces. I know that there are some, but they are the minority.
24 posted on 11/26/2007 10:51:53 AM PST by JamesP81 ("I am against "zero tolerance" policies. It is a crutch for idiots." --FReeper Tenacious 1)
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To: JamesP81

Most have a new girlfriend half their age....


25 posted on 11/26/2007 10:53:17 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (RIP Eric Medlen. You will be missed.../ Get well Soon John Force!!!)
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To: null and void; najida; Scotswife; ProCivitas
Remember this thread?

Advice to young men: Do not marry, do not have children

Went on for days. Over 500 replies.

This one has the same potential.

Come on over if you're up to it....

26 posted on 11/26/2007 10:54:40 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: highball

Sorry, I was actually agreeing with you.

Should have made that a bit clearer.


27 posted on 11/26/2007 10:54:58 AM PST by misterrob (Eleven down, Eight more til the Pats win the SB again.)
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To: JamesP81
Practically, ask yourself how many men initiate no fault divorces. I know that there are some, but they are the minority.

Doesn't mean they are still in the marriage. Men get unhappy and bored and want out of marriages too, they just usually have no real motivation to do the paperwork.

28 posted on 11/26/2007 10:56:16 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick
Most have a new girlfriend half their age....

Didn't say there weren't scumbag men. OTOH, my dad didn't get a new model. In fact, he's been divorced from my mother for 18 years and has never remarried. Never really tried, in fact.
29 posted on 11/26/2007 10:56:48 AM PST by JamesP81 ("I am against "zero tolerance" policies. It is a crutch for idiots." --FReeper Tenacious 1)
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To: highball

Point taken. Let me rephrase - “if one spouse wants a divorce, there’s nothing the other can do about it”. I have read stats that say 2/3 of all divorce actions are filed by the wives, but can’t vouch for their accuracy or what causal links might be involved.


30 posted on 11/26/2007 10:57:40 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Gabz

Bunk?

What’s so “bunky” about calling for the end to no-fault divorces?


31 posted on 11/26/2007 10:57:43 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

I remember that thread. It’s sad that thing have come to this, especially when we’re staring a long term cultural threat from Islamofascists in the face. The long term calculus for our civilization is very bad right now, and the worst is yet to come.


32 posted on 11/26/2007 10:58:07 AM PST by JamesP81 ("I am against "zero tolerance" policies. It is a crutch for idiots." --FReeper Tenacious 1)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Butt out???

So you think femi-nazism and no fault divorce are just peachy keen.

Whatever.


33 posted on 11/26/2007 11:00:09 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: LWalk18

My ex wifes excuse. “ I just don’t want to be married anymore.” Nothing I could do with that one.


34 posted on 11/26/2007 11:01:02 AM PST by Bruinator
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To: Responsibility2nd

I see a no fault divorce as a way for two people who either still care for one another on a platonic level, or really hate one another but are tired of fighting to part ways and be done with one another.


35 posted on 11/26/2007 11:02:18 AM PST by LukeL
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To: Responsibility2nd

I can’t think of any other US court system where you get to take half of everything someone owns (not to mention their kids) based on the other pary often not having done anything wrong.

Great for the “family law” business, bad for families.


36 posted on 11/26/2007 11:03:06 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB
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To: Responsibility2nd; Gabz
What’s so “bunky” about calling for the end to no-fault divorces?

Nothing at all.

Trying to penalize people for exercising their legal rights because you're unable or unwilling to end no-fault divorces is bunk, however.

37 posted on 11/26/2007 11:04:09 AM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: Bruinator
My ex wifes excuse. “ I just don’t want to be married anymore.” Nothing I could do with that one.

Would you really want to stay married to such a person, anyway?

38 posted on 11/26/2007 11:04:58 AM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: LukeL

The way you see NFD is just fine and dandy.

When there are no kids involved.

But... if there are children, then divorce should be as hard and as painful as possible.

Better the kids should grow up in one unhappy home than two unhappy homes.


39 posted on 11/26/2007 11:05:26 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: JamesP81
It goes both ways women and men do this...I only married once and I am still married.

But, I see a lot of bad marriages out there and making laws to force people to stay together aggrivates me...

40 posted on 11/26/2007 11:06:41 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (RIP Eric Medlen. You will be missed.../ Get well Soon John Force!!!)
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