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What The Pilgrims Ate
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Posted on 11/21/2007 8:09:11 AM PST by DogByte6RER

What The Pilgrims Ate

FIRST THANKSGIVING

In 1621 the Plymouth colonists and the Wampanoag Indians shared an autumn harvest feast which is now known as the first Thanksgiving. While cooking methods and table etiquette have changed as the holiday has evolved, the meal is still consumed today with the same spirit of celebration and overindulgence.

WHAT WAS ACTUALLY ON THE MENU?

What foods topped the table at the first harvest feast? Historians aren't completely certain about the full bounty, but it's safe to say the pilgrims weren't gobbling up pumpkin pie or playing with their mashed potatoes. Following is a list of the foods that were available to the colonists at the time of the 1621 feast. However, the only two items that historians know for sure were on the menu are venison and wild fowl, which are mentioned in primary sources. The most detailed description of the "First Thanksgiving" comes from Edward Winslow from A Journal of the Pilgrims at Plymouth, in 1621:

THE PILGRIMS' MENU

Foods That May Have Been on the Menu:

SEAFOOD: Cod, Eel, Clams, Lobster

WILD FOWL: Wild Turkey, Goose, Duck, Crane, Swan, Partridge, Eagles

MEAT: Venison, Seal

GRAIN: Wheat Flour, Indian Corn

VEGETABLES: Pumpkin, Peas, Beans, Onions, Lettuce, Radishes, Carrots

FRUIT: Plums, Grapes

NUTS: Walnuts, Chestnuts, Acorns

HERBS AND SEASONINGS: Olive Oil, Liverwort, Leeks, Dried Currants, Parsnips

WHAT WAS NOT ON THE MENU:

Surprisingly, the following foods, all considered staples of the modern Thanksgiving meal, didn't appear on the pilgrims's first feast table:

HAM: There is no evidence that the colonists had butchered a pig by this time, though they had brought pigs with them from England.

SWEET POTATOES/POTATOES: These were not common.

CORN ON THE COB: Corn was kept dried out at this time of year.

CRANBERRY SAUCE: The colonists had cranberries but no sugar at this time.

PUMPKIN PIE: It's not a recipe that exists at this point, though the pilgrims had recipes for stewed pumpkin.

CHICKEN/EGGS: We know that the colonists brought hens with them from England, but it's unknown how many they had left at this point or whether the hens were still laying.

MILK: No cows had been aboard the Mayflower, though it's possible that the colonists used goat milk to make cheese.

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To: OB1kNOb

” Fulfill - pleroo...”

Destroy = kataluo, meaning “to overthrow completely” or “abolish”

Fulfill = plerosai, meaning “to fill” or “to complete.”

To use the Bible to advocate the doctrine that the law was abolished and overthrown and we`re free to do as we please is a false interpretation.

Jesus went further to emphasize in verse 18, that not even the tiniest part of the Torah (the “Law”) is done away with, and won’t be until the heavens and the earth are no more AND warns against breaking the law, ( ‘luo’, meaning; “to infringe upon, loosen the force of, or render not binding).

“... For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven:...”


41 posted on 11/21/2007 11:24:50 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: OB1kNOb

(((”We” - meaning those of us saved by His grace through our faith and trust in Him. Agreed.)))

Exactly.


42 posted on 11/21/2007 12:02:26 PM PST by freepertoo
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To: Para-Ord.45

Yep. And not one of us can keep the commandments. So whoever doesn’t...is condemned.

That’s why Jesus came.


43 posted on 11/21/2007 12:03:06 PM PST by freepertoo
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To: DogByte6RER

Eagles and seals. MMmmmm!


44 posted on 11/21/2007 12:10:59 PM PST by toast
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To: DogByte6RER
OK, I've caught one but he is too cute to eat. Wonder if he likes turkey?


45 posted on 11/21/2007 12:14:57 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Para-Ord.45

Why would God allow his Son to be tortured, mutilated and murdered publicly if this was not 100% payment for all sin?

If there was any other way to wash your own sins it makes no sense for such a price to be paid for you.


46 posted on 11/21/2007 12:18:27 PM PST by liberty or death
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To: DogByte6RER

I’m all for the lobster, that sounds great! Not so sure about eating the lovely swans and eagles, though.

I didn’t know acorns were edible.

As Raymond would say in that episode where Debra was making striped bass for Thanksgiving dinner, “Mmm...mmm...fish!” (ie, NOT!)


47 posted on 11/21/2007 12:19:38 PM PST by Abigail Adams
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To: ThunderStruck94

A Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours! God bless you, and thank you for your service!


48 posted on 11/21/2007 12:22:27 PM PST by Abigail Adams
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To: Para-Ord.45
Gal 5:2Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all. 3Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law. 4You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace. 5But by faith we eagerly await through the Spirit the righteousness for which we hope. 6For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love. 7You were running a good race. Who cut in on you and kept you from obeying the truth? 8That kind of persuasion does not come from the one who calls you. 9"A little yeast works through the whole batch of dough." 10I am confident in the Lord that you will take no other view. The one who is throwing you into confusion will pay the penalty, whoever he may be. 11Brothers, if I am still preaching circumcision, why am I still being persecuted? In that case the offense of the cross has been abolished. 12As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!

I can loan you a really sharp straight razor...

49 posted on 11/21/2007 12:41:51 PM PST by L,TOWM (Liberals, The Other White Meat)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg
SEAFOOD: Cod, Eel, Clams, Lobster...LOBSTER!?!?! YES! Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
50 posted on 11/21/2007 2:20:53 PM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: All
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51 posted on 11/21/2007 2:24:10 PM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: Just another Joe

See post #50 to Dr. Zoidberg...


52 posted on 11/21/2007 2:25:18 PM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: SunkenCiv

ping


53 posted on 11/21/2007 2:45:32 PM PST by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: L,TOWM

Merely restating your point does not negate my negation of your restated point.

I`ve trumped your qoute and you`ve failed to properly rebut.

Here, try again:

Matthew 5:17-20, James 2:10, Matthew 19:17; Revelation 12:17; 14:12; 22:14, John 14:15-23, John 15:10; Hebrews 2:17-18, 4:15, ROMANS 3:31, James 1:22-25, Romans 8:5-8, 1 John 2:3-7, 1 Cor. 7:19, 1 John 5:3; 2 John 1:6; Matt. 11:29,30.


54 posted on 11/21/2007 2:45:51 PM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: DogByte6RER

55 posted on 11/21/2007 2:48:28 PM PST by Daffynition (The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear.)
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To: DogByte6RER
What? I thought they ate the indigenous Shmoo Anericanus!


56 posted on 11/21/2007 2:54:57 PM PST by bvw
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To: Para-Ord.45
As Christians they were fully aware of the prohibition.

The New Testament reveals to us that Christ has fulfilled that law, thus God judges no one by what they eat. Christ has made us "clean" thus food cannot make us unclean.

57 posted on 11/21/2007 3:06:39 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: DogByte6RER

Thanks! Related:

Beer, Plymouth Rock & The Pilgrims: The Real Story
Beer (& More) In Food | 11-14-2007 | Bob Skilnik
Posted on 11/16/2007 12:44:48 PM EST by toddlintown
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1926780/posts


58 posted on 11/21/2007 3:13:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Sunday, November 18, 2007"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'"'https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Lobster was considered a “garbage fish” until a much more modern era IIRC.


60 posted on 11/21/2007 3:19:15 PM PST by Woodman ("One of the most striking differences between a cat and a lie is that a cat has only nine lives." PW)
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