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Supreme Court Will Hear D.C. Guns Case
AP via SFGate ^ | 11/20/7 | MARK SHERMAN, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 11/20/2007 10:17:40 AM PST by SmithL

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To: do the dhue

True Dat,,,I never miss his movies...


301 posted on 11/21/2007 4:17:59 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: TLI

Yeah, that comma keeps on coming back, no matter how many times we try to banish it. It was in the graphic last night on the Newshour on government TV. I think they made up a graphic of the 2A JUST to put that comma on the screen, since it really served no other purpose in the story.


302 posted on 11/21/2007 6:38:53 PM PST by publiusF27
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To: TLI
the right of the people to keep and bear arms

It does not say the right of the people who are in the militia to keep and bear arms.

303 posted on 11/21/2007 6:52:26 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: NavyDude

ping


304 posted on 11/21/2007 6:52:45 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: drpix; SmithL

I think you’re correct, drpix. I think that Roberts is taking this case because he knows the Court will rule in favor of the gun owners, and he wants that to be settled law.


305 posted on 11/21/2007 8:53:32 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Support Scouting: Raising boys to be strong men and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
I think that Roberts is taking this case because he knows the Court will rule in favor of the gun owners, and he wants that to be settled law.

No he's taking it because there is a split in opinions in two separate circuits. The Supreme Coutt is more or less obligated to take the case to settle the law.

I am not optimistic. There are only four justices who give a damn about the what the framers thought about this amendment and what the original intent was. This one could go very badly for our second amendment rights.

306 posted on 11/21/2007 9:44:28 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: gridlock
The very question accepts the contention that membership in a militia has anything to do with the right to keep and bear arms. A correct reading of the amendment, of course, makes it clear that an uninfringed right to keep and bear arms is a necessary condition for the existance of a militia, which is a reason why the pre-existing right should not be infringed. In other words, the individual right makes the collective action possible, but the right is not collective. By considering membership in a state-regulated militia part of the question, the Court accepts that that membership is relevant to the question, and that the right is granted and collective

Your exegesis is exactly correct and extremely well written. Vote for POST OF THE DAY.

307 posted on 11/22/2007 5:42:13 AM PST by agere_contra (Do not confuse the wealth of nations with the wealth of government - FDT)
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To: Jack Black

You may think this will be “hollow,” but the citizens of D.C. certainly will not.


308 posted on 11/22/2007 6:47:09 AM PST by Redbob
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To: SmithL

I heard Justice Thomas speak last night, before the Federalist Society, and there can be no doubt as to how HE will rule in this case.


309 posted on 11/22/2007 6:48:57 AM PST by Redbob
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To: Jack Black
It’s too late. I’m long, long, past caring what our pseudo-masters in black robes say.

Exactly. Lots of people on both sides will be losing sleep over this, but it will change nothing.
310 posted on 11/22/2007 11:46:42 AM PST by newguy357
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To: Triple

"I think you have the advantage over me of being much more capable of expressing your thoughts with words."

Thank you.  However, I think you express yourself well enough.  Besides, I'm not really what you might call a 'wordsmith'; I just get lucky sometimes.  Then again, my family sometimes calls me a 'blacksmith'.

No, wait, that's 'black sheep', LOL. 

311 posted on 11/22/2007 6:42:27 PM PST by RebelTex (MOLON LABE!)
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To: The KG9 Kid

“The GOP took the House in ‘94 riding a pro-gun wave,”

We really shouldn’t revise history on this website....that’s reserved to CBS,etal. ‘94 was all ‘Contract with America’, well thought out, well spoken, well sold, well voted....which well may have included some brady bill repeals...but were not core to the repeal of the Democrat’s 40 year reign! many other ‘dimmi issues’ were targeted...gay soldiers, Hillarycare, etc.


312 posted on 11/23/2007 6:27:53 AM PST by CRBDeuce (an armed society is a polite society)
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To: P-Marlowe

...but it may be that ALL 9 Justices wish to remain alive during their stint in DC! If law abiding citizens are again allowed to defend themselves, fewer thugs will be carrying (as it gives them no real advantage, and serves only to increase prison time if caught in their lawbreaking activities). Fewer thugs carrying, less chance of a Justices’ own ribs being at the pointy end of a pistol.


313 posted on 11/23/2007 6:37:28 AM PST by CRBDeuce (an armed society is a polite society)
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To: Lexington Green
The wrong SCOTUS opinion is a declaration of civil war.

Not a chance.

314 posted on 11/23/2007 3:31:03 PM PST by Jacquerie (Convince me that murderous Islam deserves 1st Amendment protection.)
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To: Resolute Conservative
If this is ruled the wrong way it could be the spark that lights the fuse that leads to a revolution.

This country accepts the progressive income tax, social security and almost unlimited abortion. There is zero chance the populace or even 10% of the polis will rise up. The sheeple will accept the affront and go on about their business.

315 posted on 11/23/2007 3:35:17 PM PST by Jacquerie (Convince me that murderous Islam deserves 1st Amendment protection.)
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To: KingofZion

Right on target!!! Nice summary.


316 posted on 11/23/2007 3:53:18 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Illegal Immigration, a Clear and Present Danger.)
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To: Jacquerie
This country accepts the progressive income tax, social security and almost unlimited abortion. There is zero chance the populace or even 10% of the polis will rise up. The sheeple will accept the affront and go on about their business.

You might be right. Keep in mind that it took a "string of abuses" before the American Revolution occurred. Eventually, there may back breaking straw for that poor camel. Also, what percentage of Americans took part, militarily, in the American Revolution?

317 posted on 11/23/2007 8:22:00 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: Repeal 16-17
I don't remember the exact number that took part in the Revolution, but it was a minority (I think between 15-30% of the population - probably closer to the 15%).

In any case, I think "FMCDH" (and the "FMCDH-BITS") will be making a resurgence here on FR.

318 posted on 11/23/2007 8:43:53 PM PST by batter ("Always take the offensive...Never Dig in." - Gen Patton)
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To: batter
I don't remember the exact number that took part in the Revolution, but it was a minority (I think between 15-30% of the population - probably closer to the 15%).

About one third...

During the American Revolution, approximately one-third of the American colonists remained loyal to the British Crown. Some 100,000 Loyalists, about four percent of the population, left the American colonies, almost one-third from New York alone. Many moved north to Quebec or Nova Scotia, bringing about great change for the country that would become Canada. Some 35,000 Loyalists established themselves in Nova Scotia. Those who settled further north helped found New Brunswick in 1784. Another 10,000 Loyalists settled in Quebec, where the increased population led the British in 1791 to divide the colony into Upper Canada (present-day Ontario) and Lower Canada (present-day Quebec). Other Loyalists went to the Bahamas or other parts of the West Indies, and some returned to England. The British government paid more than £3 million to the Loyalist exiles. In addition, they were given land, appointments and pensions.

These Loyalists - or Tories, as the Patriots called them - were officeholders, Anglicans or involved in colonial administration, landholders and merchants. The Loyalists were punished with heavy taxes, not allowed to hold office and not allowed to vote. Some were banished. Tarring and feathering, although not official, was meted out on Loyalists as punishment.

319 posted on 11/24/2007 10:07:30 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: batter
Oops, the LINK
320 posted on 11/24/2007 10:08:57 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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