But they'd better watch out about what God is capable of...
Posted on 11/19/2007 2:13:49 PM PST by icwhatudo
We all get "those" emails from time to time-the ones making claims that are meant to be passed on. We've learned to check things on sites like snopes.com to make sure what we pass is true. When it comes to the movie The Golden Compass, whats going around is...true
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“It is an idea to explore with adults, who can distinguish between heresy and gospel, and who have had some real life experience in order to put the lie to moral relativism.”
I agree. All discussion of religion should wait until adulthood when children have some life experience to filter the lessons through and think critically about.
I can’t say I’ve listened to Hillary say much of anything. I doubt she would dare talk about indoctrination, though, since she tries to squash any crticism or questioning of her ideas.
[“Indoctrination” is a GOOD THING if the doctrine is the Truth.]
Well, there’s the rub, isn’t it ? When it comes to religion, it is FAITH that is important, not TRUTH. If people knew it was TRUTH, then FAITH would no longer be required.
I believe in protecting my children from what I consider to be evil things, sorry if you disagree. Only a person with liberal values would thing I’m wrong.
Or perhaps this is your philosophy for child rearing in general. Don't discuss anything with them that has more than one level of depth. Finance, for example. No point in instilling basic concepts of thrift and management until they can understand supply side vs Keynesian economics, right? Or at least extol the virtues of impulse buying on an equal basis, so as not to bias the dear one's little minds.
Both are required. All true faith is provided by God, but false faith might come from any source independent of God.
1) pain is not why hitting is wrong. You can kill someone without pain...is that better?
2) if he doesn’t care about inflicting pain, you have to stop him because you are right and you do care.
If what is what this author really thinks, he is wasting his time!
No, it’s not weak faith that keeps a Christian from beholding open sin.
Or, it's what Plato called education.
You’ve probably never had a 6 year old son remark nonchalently how nice it is to have faith in Jesus.
Luckily, you don't get to be the arbiter of what parents teach their kids. Your moralizing on the topic is cute, but ill-placed. You raise your kids how you see fit. We'll raise ours in our chosen fashion, with our values. It's the American way. Plus it's a good thing.
These things don't send them down a dark road, it plants seeds to grow and entangle their minds with doubt for the future tests they will face.
You wrongly under estimate the power and the sway of the visual presentation
I would never let my young children see such a movie to test or undermine their fundamental belief system I have spend years to develop
Especially to put a nickel in Hollywoods pocket
Not so. In fact, BOTH are crucial.
You see, in Christianity, what begins as raw "faith" -- the initial willingness to subscribe to the idea that there really IS this God with Whom to relate; stepping into thin air, as it were -- becomes increasingly "truth" as actual, relational interaction is experienced. Not all have as profound experiences as others (I've never been knocked off of a horse, struck blind, and spoken to audibly), nevertheless I have an extensive compilation of personal, experiential data resoundingly affirming the existence of a unique, and personal relationship with The Divine.
And this is, in turn, what drives evangelism; not the numeric aspects of having your butt warming the pew in my church, nor the monetary aspect of having your money in my offering plate. Of course, you're welcome to show up on any given Sunday, and if you felt compelled to give, your gift would not be rejected. But the driving heart of evngelistic fervor is this: "You've GOTTA meet this God!" We have been so blessed and enriched by our own personal experiences with God, that we desire such blessing and enrichment for everyone.
But therein lies the problem. We could all relate to you the sum of our many life expereinces with God; the many things that He has done that could not have come to be by any other agency; life-in-the-balance moments; triumphs over great personal struggles; the whole of it could be told to you, yet you would STILL have to must your own grain of faith to finally say, "I believe," and really mean it.
So the divide remains. On one side of "faith", the "truth" is that there is no God; they are mutually exclusive. On the other side of "faith", there is no "truth" without God; the two are inextricably entwined.
Spanning the divide is the single most difficult step; that's why it's called "a leap of faith."
Peace out. Gotta commute.
Didn't work too well at its stated goal.
Better stick with mythology, Prometheus.
Cheers!
"Golden Compass" was the only children's book I ever threw away!
Where "Narnia" is a Christian allegory, "The Golden Compass" is a satanic allagory with the kids following the beautiful angel that God threw out of heaven because of his jealousy of his beauty, and the kids have their own demon(daemon) sidekicks. Just sick.
Before you think I would be horribly picky about everything my kids read, they loved Harry Potter series, though I did use it as a teaching tool;-)
This covers multiple Moral Absolutes, doesn’t it?
Off-topic Sarcasm TorpedoTM ARMED. FIRE!!
Well, both Dumbledore and Ian McKellen are gay, right?
Full Disclosure: Tolkien wrote to his son (then stationed with the R.A.F. in South Africa that "Gandalf is an angel."
Second disclosure: Pullman will have to do some fancy exigesis to get around Sodom and Gomorrah. ("Bring out the young men who arrived with you, that we may know them.")
Cheers!
But they'd better watch out about what God is capable of...
They’re still excellently written books.
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