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Boeing bosses spy on workers
Seattle-PI.com ^ | Friday, November 16, 2007 | ANDREA JAMES

Posted on 11/18/2007 8:59:10 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Within its bowels, The Boeing Co. holds volumes of proprietary information deemed so valuable that the company has entire teams dedicated to making sure that private information stays private.

One such team, dubbed "enterprise" investigators, has permission to read the private e-mails of employees, follow them and collect video footage or photos of them. Investigators can also secretly watch employee computer screens in real time and reproduce every keystroke a worker makes, the Seattle P-I has learned.

For years, Boeing workers have held suspicions about being surveilled, according to a long history of P-I contact with sources, but at least three people familiar with investigation tactics have recently confirmed them.

One company source said some employees have raised internal inquiries about whether their rights were violated. Sometimes, instead of going to court over a grievance on an investigation, Boeing and the employee reach a financial settlement. The settlement almost always requires people involved to sign non-disclosure agreements, the source said.

Boeing desires to keep investigation details under wraps.

"We will not discuss specifics of internal investigations with the media," it said in a written response to P-I questions. "Issues that necessitate investigation in order to protect the company's interests and those of its employees and other stakeholders are handled consistent with all applicable laws."

But the tactics used by Washington's largest employer raise questions about where an employee's rights begin and the employer's end, and how much leeway any corporation has in investigating an employee if it suspects wrongdoing.

A recent case at another large company highlighted that investigations can go too far. In 2006, a scandal erupted at Hewlett-Packard after the company investigated leaks from its board of directors.

The company was ordered to pay $14.5 million and to bring its internal investigations into compliance with laws in California, the company's home state.

The investigation included reviews of internal e-mails and instant messages, the physical surveillance of a board member and at least one journalist, and the illegal use of deception to obtain telephone records of employees and journalists.

For its part, Boeing says that it has multiple internal organizations that provide checks and balances "to ensure these investigations are conducted properly and in accordance with established company and legal guidelines. We do not comment on individual cases or specific investigation activities."

An employee is tailed

Recently, a Boeing investigator told a Puget Sound-area employee that he was followed off company property to a lunch spot, that investigators had footage of him "coming and going" and that investigators had accessed his personal Gmail account.

The primary reason for the 2007 investigation, the employee said, was Boeing's suspicion that he had spoken with a member of the media. The employee learned the details of the investigation during a three-hour meeting, in which investigators laid out some of their findings. He has since been fired.

That particular investigation was connected with a July article in the P-I that brought to light Boeing's struggles complying with a 2002 corporate reform law and cited unnamed sources and internal company documents.

"I wasn't surprised, but more just disappointed in them, that instead of looking at the problems, instead of investigating that, they investigated the people that were complaining and got rid of them," said the employee, who had been an auditor in the company's Office of Internal Governance and asked that he not be named.

"It's not quite indentured servitude, because you can quit, but when you look at the mortgages and car payments, especially in Seattle, you're not exactly free," said the surveilled former employee.

Experts say that tailing employees -- though surprising -- is usually legal, and that corporations have many options at their disposal to monitor employees. An investigator can do most things short of breaking into someone's home.

For example, under Washington's stalking law, licensed private investigators "acting within the capacity of his or her license" are allowed to repeatedly follow a person. Boeing's internal investigators are exempt under state law from having to obtain a private investigator license, but contracted investigators must hold licenses.

"It's worse than you can possibly imagine," said Ed Mierzwinski, consumer program director at the federation of Public Interest Research Groups.

"Employees should understand that the law generally gives employers broad authority to conduct surveillance, whether through e-mail, video cameras or other forms of tracking, including off the job in many cases."

The law grants companies the right to protect themselves from employees who break the law, such as by embezzling money or using the company warehouse to run a drug-smuggling ring.

The problem, Mierzwinski said, is when companies use the surveillance tactics available to them to root out whistle-blowers.

"We need greater whistle-blower protections," he said. But, "if you're using the company's resources and you think it's protected because you're using Hotmail, think again."

Privacy laws ask whether a reasonable person would be outraged by a particular act; reasonableness is an oft-cited concept in law, explained Bill Covington, a University of Washington professor on technology law and public policy. Washington is a "will-to-work" state, meaning employees can be fired without reason, he added.

"We cannot write laws that cover every circumstance," he said. "A jury can apply a community standard of what they deem to be fair and right. There are just too many other situations."

Unfortunately, the public itself does not know what it wants, he said.

"I don't think we have made up our mind which way we want to go with these particular laws," Covington said. "You are having a classic clash between business ... and privacy groups."

You are being watched

So when does privacy begin? When an employee steps across the threshold into his or her own home, experts say.

"The only thing your boss can't do is listen to personal telephone calls; that's covered by wiretapping laws," said Lewis Maltby, president of the National Workrights Institute in Princeton, N.J.

Companies following workers typically do so to check on the legitimacy of workers' compensation claims. A company needs to know if a worker who claims injury is actually mowing his lawn, Maltby said. It is "completely inappropriate" to trail employees to see if they are talking to reporters, he added -- but it is legal.

As one expert at the American Civil Liberties Union pointed out, just as the average Joe could trail his neighbor if he wanted to, companies are allowed to trail employees.

"I can't harass the person, but there's nothing that prevents me from just following him," said Doug Klunder, privacy project director at the ACLU of Washington.

Klunder said that reading private e-mails is "highly questionable." Companies should be able to know that employees are checking e-mail, but should not be able to view the contents of the e-mails.

"We certainly don't believe that an employer should be able to read private e-mail content just because it's accessed on a work computer," he said.

However, "it's a tricky area because there aren't a lot of legal protections in Washington and in most states where we have employment-at-will. There are some privacy rights of employees, but they are limited relative to the employer."

When Boeing employees sign on to the company network, a screen pops up to tell them that "to the extent permitted by law, system use and information may be monitored, recorded or disclosed and that using the system constitutes user consent to do so," according to Boeing.

Rights for whistle-blowers

If a corporate investigation discovers employee wrongdoing that merits discipline or dismissal, workers have little recourse, experts say. Whistle-blowers, on the other hand, are afforded more protection, but only if an investigation is deemed retaliatory.

"There are no employee rights. Employees have little negotiating power," said Bill Mateja, former point man for President Bush's Corporate Fraud Task Force, formed in 2002. "Only if they're in the position of whistle-blower do they have a little more oomph."

Whistle-blower cases can be dismissed for many reasons -- the employee might not have understood the law, or the employer's retaliation is not severe enough to merit fault, "or it can be that the investigation cannot prove that the adverse action was taken for the reason that was complained about," said David Mahlum, assistant regional administrator for Region 10 of the Occupational Safety and Health Administration. That agency investigates whistle-blower complaints.

Robert Ellis Smith, a lawyer and the publisher of Privacy Journal, a monthly newsletter, called whistle-blower protections the "wild card" in employee protections.

"Protections against electronic surveillance are virtually non-existent in the workplace," Smith said. "The one wild card for this is federal protections for whistle-blowers. Aside from that, the privacy laws are quite weak."

P-I reporter Andrea James can be reached at 206-448-8124 or andreajames@seattlepi.com.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: boeing; industrialespionage; nofreeping4you; privacy; workplace
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To: liberty_lvr

You just violated Boeing’s policy regarding posting on a public web site about Boeing without approval.


41 posted on 11/18/2007 11:12:39 AM PST by StolarStorm
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To: StolarStorm
I know well the policy to which you are referring, and no, I did not violate it.

On the other hand, if you're trying to be funny, try again.

42 posted on 11/18/2007 11:18:09 AM PST by liberty_lvr
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To: liberty_lvr

You violated the policy unless you have prior approval to post about Boeing on public forums. If you do have approval then it means that you are formally representing Boeing in this discussion. Are you? Should I contact the Boeing corporate office to question their postiong on this board regarding this issue?


43 posted on 11/18/2007 11:21:20 AM PST by StolarStorm
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
I would've thought that hacking into somebody's personal e-mail account would be illegal.

My guess is that the guy was accessing it at work. Reading what he sent and read at work would clearly be ok. If they actually accessed the account, it gets stickier.

44 posted on 11/18/2007 11:30:49 AM PST by PAR35
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To: StolarStorm
Well, aren't you the clever one! Good luck with that whole questioning of the corporate office on "their" postiong (sic) on this board. I'm sure they'll run that one right up to the top of their priority list.

I think you took the garbage from this article a little too closely to heart.

BTW, I would assume by the nature of your comments that you are an employee of the company - not to put too fine a point on it, but that means you would fall into the same category as you are now placing me.

If you are not an employee, than what exactly makes you think you know anything about the company's internal policies? Acting as a contractor or working for a customer airline doesn't quite cut it. You're still on the outside of the corporation looking in.

45 posted on 11/18/2007 11:31:57 AM PST by liberty_lvr
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Big Boss spying on your browsing habits??? Reading your email over his network??? Watching you while you eTrade???

THE SOLUTION

Tell him to F$^% off with IronKey

https://www.ironkey.com/


46 posted on 11/18/2007 11:39:54 AM PST by HKMk23 (Nine out of ten orcs attacking Rohan were Saruman's Uruk-hai, not Sauron's! So, why invade Mordor?)
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To: traviskicks

ping


47 posted on 11/18/2007 11:42:08 AM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; The majority are satisfied with a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: liberty_lvr; StolarStorm

You’re both missing the point, and so did the journalist who wrote the piece.

The “rightness” or “wrongness” of the policy depends on what they are looking for...


48 posted on 11/18/2007 11:47:07 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: bamahead; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; Allerious; ...
Libertarian ping! To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here.
49 posted on 11/18/2007 12:15:37 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
It wasn't a private company account, it was his personal Gmail account (as in Google, not @boeing.com). To get in, they had to steal his password or hack the system. I'm reasonably sure that's not legal.

It really depends... If Boeing actually recorded his username and password, and then used that information to access his personal email account, then it probably IS illegal. On the other hand, if they were monitoring his computer, and he were to access his email from the company network on a company computer, and they read the messages he composed and read, then it wouldn't be, especially if the computer use policy of the company stated that computer access could be monitored.

Mark

50 posted on 11/18/2007 12:52:51 PM PST by MarkL (Listen, Strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

And Boeing pays well enough that if employees want to peek at boobies, they can do it at home on their own internet connection.

Doesn’t sound so much as a privacy issue as an industrial espionage issue.


51 posted on 11/18/2007 12:56:54 PM PST by djf (Send Fred some bread! Not a whole loaf, a slice or two will do!)
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To: JoanVarga
I don't even take home company pens.

I worked with a guy that told his boss, "I need a company pen. The pen I have here is a personal pen and I shouldn't use it for signing work-related documents"

52 posted on 11/18/2007 1:14:20 PM PST by Tai_Chung
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To: AdamSelene235

Same gender, but what about sexual orientation?


53 posted on 11/18/2007 1:30:12 PM PST by jbenedic2 (Nothing new for the New York Times)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast; Wage Slave
Regardless of whether you are using an employer-owned computer to access your private email - I suspect just recording your password and especially later using it to access your private email account is felonious. There are laws in both washington and us code related to unauthorized access and posession of access devices, aka passwords. If this was company policy or facilitated by management, conspiracy may also apply. RICO also comes to mind.

Just so it's perfectly clear - there are people in prison today for doing such things, and as a matter of protecting the integrity of profession I would prefer that IT workers and management who break such laws end up in prison.

54 posted on 11/18/2007 1:54:47 PM PST by no-s
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To: liberty_lvr
So are you admitting that you are representing Boeing on this board or not?

I don't work for Boeing so I am free to post about this topic. You are not free to post here about your employer unless you are discussing this topic with approval from Boeing Legal. If you do not have that approval then you may face disicplary action up to and including termination. Call HR. Ask them!
55 posted on 11/18/2007 2:11:07 PM PST by StolarStorm
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

So what programs/key words can I do a search for on the computer? I’d like to find the key loggers.....


56 posted on 11/18/2007 2:16:38 PM PST by Fawn (http://www.brightlion.com/InHope/InHope_en.aspx)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Work is work. Home is for your own time

Even your unpaid lunch hour?

57 posted on 11/18/2007 2:18:51 PM PST by Fawn (http://www.brightlion.com/InHope/InHope_en.aspx)
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To: StolarStorm

“What about in the restroom? Can my employer watch me wipe my A**?”

It would be better to ask that question to one of Larry Craig’s staffers.


58 posted on 11/18/2007 2:22:47 PM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (The WOT will end when pork products are weaponized)
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To: Fawn

“So what programs/key words can I do a search for on the computer? I’d like to find the key loggers.....”


They’re hard to detect. They hide; that’s their job. And some of the utilities that purport to detect them are not trustworthy.

They’re increasingly popular with employers (in my consulting I was asked to program one in 1985!) for monitoring employee activities and throughput. But they’re used by identity-thieves, estrange spouses and unscrupulous competitors too.

You’re safest if you’re running a Mac or Linux. Note, if you run an OS in a virtual machine, a keylogger on the host machine will still be effective.

Incidentally, public computers are frequently compromised with keyloggers. Watch out for those.

Seemingly trustworthy resources:

http://www.thefreecountry.com/security/spywareremoval.shtml

http://wiki.castlecops.com/Lists_of_freeware_antikeyloggers

http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=85218

http://www.snoopfree.com/

http://dewasoft.com/privacy/i-hate-keyloggers.htm


59 posted on 11/18/2007 2:29:13 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast ([Fred Thompson/Clarence Thomas 2008!])
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To: StolarStorm
"Some of my fellows in Network security are terrible hypocrites."

Biggest porn fiend I've ever witnessed was a brilliant IT guy. He had things rigged to detect new content on many dozens of porns sites; his little arrangement would use the company bandwidth to automatically download hours and hours of fresh porn every day to his desk. Now that was one keyboard I'd want to rinse with Clorox... The interesting thing was that this guy was movie-star handsome and had no trouble with the ladies. He was just an addict, that's all.
60 posted on 11/18/2007 2:34:44 PM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast ([Fred Thompson/Clarence Thomas 2008!])
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