[Attention Surplus Disorder]

I am NOT a RP supporter. However, I find this a chilling development and a possible prelude to PM confiscation. Yeah, yeah, Bernard von NotHaus.

[samtheman]

I’m not an RP supporter either. But I definitely think you have the best screen name in FR.

[Red Badger]

Just what is a “Liberty Dollar”?.............

[Badeye]

I want to know why the raid took place, and what the warrant specified before drawing any conclusions.

And most in this forum know clearly I’m not a Ron Paul supporter, either.

[wideawake]

Your link directs to a different article.

Is there some external link that proves this extremely convenient excuse for not delivering merchandise that has already been paid for?

[mysterio]

FBI pulled down their site as well : link

Waiting to see how many posters are AOK with this theft of private property by our government.

[Moonman62]

Why do I get the feeling that this is about fraud, not minting a legal alternate currency?

[lormand]

Prawned Paul Ping

"Liberty Dollar recently issued a "Presidential" Ron Paul Dollar in support of the Republican peace candidate. Now it asks peace-seeking Americans to start using the Peace Dollar and stop using the US War Dollar, as it finances the Iraq War."

This sounds like complete insanity to me. "Peace Dollar"?

These traitors need to be marched across the DMZ into North Korea.

[mysterio]

From 2006 :

"'Liberty Dollars' Can Buy Users A Prison Term, U.S. Mint Warns

By Elizabeth Williamson Washington Post Staff Writer Tuesday, October 10, 2006; Page A19

Once upon a time, a "monetary architect" named Bernard von NotHaus decided to make his own money.

He put a beautiful Lady Liberty and a majestic flaming torch on the silver and gold coins, and he named them "Liberty Dollars." On his Web site, http://www.libertydollar.org , he said: "It is fun to use REAL money. Liberty Dollars are a proven and profitable currency that protects and grows the purchasing power of your money!"

True story, phony money. So says the U.S. Mint, which would like to remind Liberty Dollar users that since the United States already has its own currency, the only thing Liberty Dollars buy in these parts is a jail term.

Liberty Dollars were coined by von NotHaus and an Evansville, Ind.-based group called Norfed, which stands for (sort of) the National Organization for the Repeal of the Federal Reserve Act and the Internal Revenue Code. In the late 1990s, the group began hawking its money as a hedge against inflation, and as a way to compete with the Fed. Von NotHaus makes the pitch online, using a raft of statistics and graphs that he says show the greenback is well nigh worthless."

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

What are Ron Paul dollars backed by? The full faith and credit of Ron Paul?

[mnehring]

....the Liberty Dollar, the second most popular currency in the country...
Little known fact, but postage is considered legal currency, thus, is actually the second most popular currency.

[mnehring]

Defrauding people with a fake currency? Sounds like a legit reason to me.

[mosaicwolf]

Ummmmm......maybe that is why Gold is down $20.00 today. :-)

[jrooney]

Only freakin morons think it is okay for any nut group to print their own currency for circulation. I am glad these peaceniks have had their currency taken and they are being monitored.

[Petronski]

For approximately six hours they took all the gold, all the silver, all the platinum and almost two tons of Ron Paul Dollars that where just delivered last Friday. They also took all the files, all the computers and froze our bank accounts.

We have no money. We have no products. We have no records to even know what was ordered or what you are owed. We have nothing but the will to push forward and overcome this massive assault on our liberty and our right to have real money as defined by the US Constitution. We should not to be defrauded by the fake government money.

[WackySam]

I guess as long as you just print paper money back by nothing you’re ok.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/23/eveningnews/main2843772.shtml

[McGruff]

Is this the Friday comedy thread? I ask because today is only Thursday.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

why would the FBI raid their offices when no crime was ever committed?

ipse dixit

[rineaux]

Ping.

[CholeraJoe]

a dozen FBI and Secret Service agents raided the Liberty Dollar office in Evansville.

Evansville, Indiana? That's where I am and there nothing on the local news about it. Furthermore, the Federal Building is about 3 blocks from me and except for a couple of Federal Marshalls taking a smoke break, it's quiet as a churchyard this morning.

[SwankyC]

why would the FBI raid their offices when no crime was ever committed? This is a currency competing with the USD...

No crime commited and yet the very next sentence admits they are minting currency. I dunno, I woulda thunk the gubmint got testy since they are the only one authorized to mint currency.