Posted on 11/13/2007 7:08:30 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
I can understand that, but at the same time, I think defaulting to putting the kids with mom is just terrible. There should be some real evaluation of who is the better parent/etc. At any rate, it’s not a simple thing or it would already be solved, but I do think it merits more attention.
Absolutely. People really do seem to hold grudges over the most ridiculous things, don’t they?
LOL! I don’t have much to do with my Mom, but have always treated my Dad like a king. My husband gets the same treatment.
I think you both are groping for anything that will let you deny the obvious.
It sure does...it's no secret what happens to children when they get everything they want.
“I just tried a meatloaf recipe the other day from the cardboard canister of store-brand bread crumbs”
That’s how I got my stuffed shell recipe (P&R shells).
I’ll check out the bread crumb packaging though. Thanks!
“It’s the female culture. There’s nothing that can go wrong in their lives they can’t find a way to make the guy’s fault.”
I don’t know if anyone really can claim the market on whining.
If you go through freeper threads on various topics concerning marriage, relationships, career vs. family life, divorce, and even breast feeding threads, you will see there are many men who won’t give a woman a break no matter what her situation.
I’ve learned on those threads that career women are selfish materialistic bitches. Stay at home moms are mindless moocher “pets” sucking the life blood out of their husbands.Younger unmarried girls are ho’s. Older unmarried women are spinsters. Divorced women are always at fault for the divore. Anything wrong with children is always the mother’s fault, and women should breastfeed, but they should always do it at home huddled under a blanket because it’s gross.
Sure...there are plenty of female whiners, and I’ve seen plenty of the that too, but c’mon guys - there are plenty of male whiners on these message boards too!
“Absolutely. People really do seem to hold grudges over the most ridiculous things, dont they?”
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As I said, I once worked for a young attorney when he was in family law. And I’ve worked in other non-family type cases too. I always said I could write a book about some of the karp that goes on. It’s tragic really.
“I miss the family thread. We had some great discussions about marriage AND cooking!”
When was that?
I would enjoy more threads with that kind of stuff.
I have to disagree with your statement. Many are the model husband or wife whose spouse decided they didn't want to be married anymore, that the grass looked greener on the other side of the fence, etc. The bottom line is that you can't control your spouse's commitment and character by your model behaviour. It helps, yes, but if your spouse decides he/she doesn't want to honor their vows, you can do all the right things to encourage their staying, but if they decide to leave anyway, there's absolutely nothing you can do about it.
Baskerville is wrong. At its root, divorce is a cultural problem, not a political one. No-fault divorce laws are a bad idea but they came out of a culture that views marriage as an exercise in self-gratification, which can be ended as soon as one of the spouses tires of it. As soon as people stopped thinking of marriage as an unbreakable, lifelong commitment, they started pressuring lawmakers to “liberalize” divorce laws, to make divorce easier to get.
Telling young men not to have marry or to have children is stupid because it will only further weaken marriage, not strengthen it. Baskerville’s very negative portrayal of women in this article is untrue and only serves to worsen relations between the sexes, not improve them.
He should have advised young men to marry women who see marriage as a lifelong commitment and who are willing to remain chaste before marriage. People who cannot delay their self gratification before marriage will not be able to delay it afterward.
Aye Lassie, If ye weren’t married, Oy’d invite yew out for a fyne whine...
“The central problem is that people have lost sight of the meaning of selfless, all-forgiving love.”
right on.
Is that a scottish accent? My maiden name is Ross!
My goodness! I’m blushing!
” People who cannot delay their self gratification before marriage will not be able to delay it afterward.”
well...hubby and I are proof that stupid hot headed kids can manage to grow up afterall.
Luckily we happened to grow up together.
My work here is done...
If you have a good marriage and good children, you should thank God every day.
I do.
LOL! good night - and I hope you still get to enjoy that wine.
I can’t enjoy a good wine until late may.
So true! They said we’d never make it. We’re more in love with each other now than we were in high school—28 years ago.
You can whine anytime...
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