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To: papertyger

“It’s the female culture. There’s nothing that can go wrong in their lives they can’t find a way to make the guy’s fault.”

I don’t know if anyone really can claim the market on whining.
If you go through freeper threads on various topics concerning marriage, relationships, career vs. family life, divorce, and even breast feeding threads, you will see there are many men who won’t give a woman a break no matter what her situation.
I’ve learned on those threads that career women are selfish materialistic bitches. Stay at home moms are mindless moocher “pets” sucking the life blood out of their husbands.Younger unmarried girls are ho’s. Older unmarried women are spinsters. Divorced women are always at fault for the divore. Anything wrong with children is always the mother’s fault, and women should breastfeed, but they should always do it at home huddled under a blanket because it’s gross.

Sure...there are plenty of female whiners, and I’ve seen plenty of the that too, but c’mon guys - there are plenty of male whiners on these message boards too!


287 posted on 11/13/2007 1:19:56 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: Scotswife

Aye Lassie, If ye weren’t married, Oy’d invite yew out for a fyne whine...


292 posted on 11/13/2007 1:29:56 PM PST by null and void (No more Bushes/No more Clintons)
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To: Scotswife
Hyperbole aside, and it IS hyperbole on your part, there is a difference.

Let's look at the current thread. We have guys complaining about how the family law system is weighted in favor of the women. We also have women complaining about the guys "bitterness" and how they can't win. People trying to remain neutral say it's "he said, she said" and neither side is right, but is that true?

Frankly, I don't consider it worth the effort to try to refute the guys claims, because they are self-evident.

So what can be learned about the women's claim? For that you need to do some research to find out women have a VERY definite pattern of "alternative aggression" that is almost always communication based. This is well catalogued in Rachel Simmons "Odd Girl Out."

The charge of "bitterness" is an attempt to undermine the self-confidence of the accused, and it's a well recognized tactic by any girl that has been on a school playground.

The possibility of the "bitterness" being justified is never addressed though it is surely relevant. Furthermore, there is a subtle twisting of the terms to allow the accuser to counter-attack. That is, if the "bitterness" accusation is not immediately refuted it can be turned into a cudgle to beat the accused. That cudgle is unspoken "name-calling." Everything the accused says is treated as if it were calling a name instead of a legitimate grievence.

Think of a thief that accuses you of insulting his character because you called him a thief when you caught him stealing, and you have some idea of the dynamic.

Once a man catches onto this "alternative aggression" he sees women much like they see each other...that is, opportunistic.

315 posted on 11/13/2007 2:03:30 PM PST by papertyger (changing words quickly metastasizes into changing facts -- Ann Coulter)
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