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Advice to young men: Do not marry, do not have children
ENTERSTAGERIGHT ^ | 11/12/2007 | Stephen Baskerville

Posted on 11/13/2007 7:08:30 AM PST by Responsibility2nd

Marriage is a foundation of civilized life. No advanced civilization has ever existed without the married, two-parent family. Those who argue that our civilization needs healthy marriages to survive are not exaggerating.

And yet I cannot, in good conscience, urge young men to marry today. For many men (and some women), marriage has become nothing less than a one-way ticket to jail. Even the New York Times has reported on how easily "the divorce court leads to a jail cell," mostly for men. In fact, if I have one urgent piece of practical advice for young men today it is this: Do not marry and do not have children.

Spreading this message may also, in the long run, be the most effective method of saving marriage as an institution. For until we understand that the principal threat to marriage today is not cultural but political, and that it comes not from homosexuals but from heterosexuals, we will never reverse the decline of marriage. The main destroyer of marriage, it should be obvious, is divorce. Michael McManus of Marriage Savers points out that "divorce is a far more grievous blow to marriage than today's challenge by gays." The central problem is the divorce laws.

It is well known that half of all marriages end in divorce. But widespread misconceptions lead many to believe it cannot happen to them. Many conscientious people think they will never be divorced because they do not believe in it. In fact, it is likely to happen to you whether you wish it or not.

First, you do not have to agree to the divorce or commit any legal transgression. Under "no-fault" divorce laws, your spouse can divorce you unilaterally without giving any reasons. The judge will then grant the divorce automatically without any questions.

But further, not only does your spouse incur no penalty for breaking faith; she can actually profit enormously. Simply by filing for divorce, your spouse can take everything you have, also without giving any reasons. First, she will almost certainly get automatic and sole custody of your children and exclude you from them, without having to show that you have done anything wrong. Then any unauthorized contact with your children is a crime. Yes, for seeing your own children you will be subject to arrest.

There is no burden of proof on the court to justify why they are seizing control of your children and allowing your spouse to forcibly keep you from them. The burden of proof (and the financial burden) is on you to show why you should be allowed to see your children.

The divorce industry thus makes it very attractive for your spouse to divorce you and take your children. (All this earns money for lawyers whose bar associations control the careers of judges.) While property divisions and spousal support certainly favor women, the largest windfall comes through the children. With custody, she can then demand "child support" that may amount to half, two-thirds, or more of your income. (The amount is set by committees consisting of feminists, lawyers, and enforcement agents – all of whom have a vested interest in setting the payments as high as possible.) She may spend it however she wishes. You pay the taxes on it, but she gets the tax deduction.

You could easily be left with monthly income of a few hundreds dollars and be forced to move in with relatives or sleep in your car. Once you have sold everything you own, borrowed from relatives, and maximized your credit cards, they then call you a "deadbeat dad" and take you away in handcuffs. You are told you have "abandoned" your children and incarcerated without trial.

Evidence indicates that, as men discover all this, they have already begun an impromptu marriage "strike": refusing to marry or start families, knowing they can be criminalized if their wife files for divorce. "Have anti-father family court policies led to a men's marriage strike?" ask Glenn Sacks and Dianna Thompson in the Philadelphia Enquirer. In Britain, fathers tour university campuses warning young men not to start families. In his book, From Courtship to Courtroom, Attorney Jed Abraham concludes that the only protection for men to avoid losing their children and everything else is not to start families in the first place.

Is it wise to disseminate such advice? If people stop marrying, what will become of the family and our civilization?

Marriage is already all but dead, legally speaking, and divorce is the principal reason. The fall in the Western birth rate is directly connected with divorce law.

It is also likely that same-sex marriage is being demanded only because of how heterosexuals have already debased marriage through divorce law. "The world of no-strings heterosexual hookups and 50% divorce rates preceded gay marriage," advocate Andrew Sullivan points out. "All homosexuals are saying...is that, under the current definition, there's no reason to exclude us. If you want to return straight marriage to the 1950s, go ahead. But until you do, the exclusion of gays is simply an anomaly – and a denial of basic civil equality."

We will not restore marriage by burying our heads in the sand; nor simply by preaching to young people to marry, as the Bush administration's government therapy programs now do. The way to restore marriage as an institution in which young people can place their trust, their children, and their lives is to make it an enforceable contract. We urgently need a national debate about divorce, child custody, and the terms under which the government can forcibly sunder the bonds between parents and their children. We owe it to future generations, if there are to be any.

Stephen Baskerville, Ph.D., is assistant professor of government at Patrick Henry College and President of the American Coalition for Fathers and Children. His book, Taken Into Custody: The War Against Fathers, Marriage, and the Family, has just been published by Cumberland House Publishing.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deadculture; divorce; divorcecourts; familylaw; fathersrights; game; hedonism; liberalfascism; marriage; obama; profamily; pua; single
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To: Responsibility2nd

Yeah. Let’s all not marry or have chuldren. Let’s just “die off” and give the planet to the ROP.
This has to be one of the most idiotic posts I’ve ever seen.
Regardless of the fact that many men have been “ripped off”.


241 posted on 11/13/2007 10:51:54 AM PST by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: Responsibility2nd
Simply by filing for divorce, your spouse can take everything you have, also without giving any reasons. First, she will almost certainly get automatic and sole custody of your children and exclude you from them, without having to show that you have done anything wrong.

Bullcrap. The default is joint custody.

Stephen Baskerville, Ph.D., is assistant professor of government at Patrick Henry College and President of the American Coalition for Fathers and Children. His book, Taken Into Custody: The War Against Fathers, Marriage, and the Family, has just been published by Cumberland House Publishing.

Tells you all you need to know. He's not an attorney who knows the law, he's a political hack hired by a diploma-mill institution.

242 posted on 11/13/2007 10:56:54 AM PST by jude24 (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: WV Mountain Mama

Asbestos suit at the ready. Hey. Teenage boys are just as nuts as menopausal women and almost as dangerous to themselves and others . . . so it’s not a sexist thing.

; P

And nobody says “boo” if you talk about a deaf and grumpy old man.

I’ve seen women in tough menopauses that are really erratic. Guys that lose jobs in middle age go through a rough time too. Heck. Life is tough.


243 posted on 11/13/2007 11:01:08 AM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: grellis

My mother used oatmeal in her meatloaf. She found her recipe on the oatmeal box.

I have an old recipe for chocolate cherry cake that appeared on a Duncan Hines cake mix box — chocolate or devils food cake mix (and the necessary add-ins) and a can of cherries. After you pour or spread the prepared cake batter into the pan, you make a well in the middle and dump the cherries in. As the cake bakes, the cherries tend to migrate from the middle to the edge. Whenever I make that cake, it’s gone in 60 seconds.


244 posted on 11/13/2007 11:03:02 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Greg F

We quietly live our lives but are always aware of stuff like this:

http://www.billstclair.com/lodge/Books101.shtml


245 posted on 11/13/2007 11:03:13 AM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
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To: CharacterCounts
Don't forget abortion! Women do not have to worry about getting pregnant anymore.No more responsibilities includes killing the unborn. Nike said it best Just do it!
246 posted on 11/13/2007 11:16:36 AM PST by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: Halls
I’ve spent over $100,000 in legal fees fighting my older sons father in court over him. It put me and my husband in ....

Get over it.

247 posted on 11/13/2007 11:19:18 AM PST by papertyger (changing words quickly metastasizes into changing facts -- Ann Coulter)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Advice to young men: Do not marry, do not have children”
Well, at least not until you can afford to!

And if you are in a community-property state, either move away.
Or earn a ton of $$$ and document your ownership before you marry
and don’t advertize it if you’re already a “man of means”.


248 posted on 11/13/2007 11:19:38 AM PST by VOA
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To: Keith Brown
I have seen it all, the traditional church wife, the high school sweet heart, the really cool gal,...all of them go bonkers and destroy not only a guy, but the kids too!

It's the female culture. There's nothing that can go wrong in their lives they can't find a way to make the guy's fault.

249 posted on 11/13/2007 11:30:10 AM PST by papertyger (changing words quickly metastasizes into changing facts -- Ann Coulter)
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To: fatnotlazy

Ok....given that I’m not exactly wealthy and not married, I should be miserable. LOL
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Joy is what you should seek anyway. Not happiness. And joy doesn’t depend on wealth or marriage.


250 posted on 11/13/2007 11:35:23 AM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: a real Sheila
Men, do yourself a favor, please look past her bra size and measure her character!

Hey! What do you have agains big...character ;o)

251 posted on 11/13/2007 11:35:46 AM PST by papertyger (changing words quickly metastasizes into changing facts -- Ann Coulter)
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To: taxcontrol
Average murder conviction is 11 years. So it could be reasonably postulated that killing your spouse COULD be less burdensome both financial and jail time than getting a divorce and then going to jail for non payment of support.

Yeah, but who wants to put up with the seating arraignment? ;o)

252 posted on 11/13/2007 11:46:01 AM PST by papertyger (changing words quickly metastasizes into changing facts -- Ann Coulter)
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To: grellis

wow

that was one helluva blame-the-victim line!

can i borrow it?


253 posted on 11/13/2007 11:51:09 AM PST by woollyone (tazers...the 21st century version of the rusty bed frame, car battery, & clamps)
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To: null and void

Too little information to respond! I think believing Christians shouldn’t divorce except for infidelity

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254 posted on 11/13/2007 11:57:56 AM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Greg F

Thanks Greg. Good thought.

I love statistics...particularly when I can defy them.


255 posted on 11/13/2007 11:58:29 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: fatnotlazy

256 posted on 11/13/2007 12:03:17 PM PST by Greg F (Duncan Hunter is a good man.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

What’s funny is that I have a female friend whose life was almost completely ruined by child support SHE has to pay. Sometimes the door swings both ways. I don’t think blaming marriage or divorce or whatever is the key here. We need some serious thought on the institution of child support and divorce courts.


257 posted on 11/13/2007 12:03:55 PM PST by Kaylee Frye
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To: Responsibility2nd
It is well known that half of all marriages end in divorce.

And the other half drag on and on and on...

258 posted on 11/13/2007 12:05:54 PM PST by Wolfie
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To: Greg F
I think believing Christians shouldnÂ’t divorce except for infidelity

Yeah. My ex was convinced that if I came home 5 minutes late on a 40 minute commute that I must be having a affair.

The worst thing I could possibly do would be to bring home flowers, that was absolute proof in her warped mind that not only was I having an affair, I was feeling guilty about it!

Ditto for any other thoughtful gesture, taking her out to dinner, chocolate, a love note, etc.

She had me on a very tight leash, the only time I was out of her sight was when I was at work, or commuting to or from work. I was allowed a very small amount of cash, barely enough to buy roach coach lunches. And she was still convinced I was cheating on her!

When???

Do you know why divorces are so expensive?

It’s because they are WORTH IT!

259 posted on 11/13/2007 12:13:14 PM PST by null and void (No more Bushes/No more Clintons)
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To: Greg F

Oh, and just for the record, I wasn’t.


260 posted on 11/13/2007 12:16:10 PM PST by null and void (No more Bushes/No more Clintons)
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