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Needed: Unity, Not Compromise (Values Voters Should Put Faith And Family First Alert)
Worldnetdaily.com ^ | 11/13/2007 | Janet Folger

Posted on 11/12/2007 10:10:29 PM PST by goldstategop

We need unity – but what we don't need is compromise. The only thing this latest endorsement shows us is that our leaders are divided. The good news is that the grass roots are not. The two best indicators of where values voters stand are those who attended the Values Voter Presidential Debate and Summit where Gov. Mike Huckabee won both contests with more votes than all of the other candidates – combined. The 5-to-1 margin in both was clear – the leaders may be divided, but the values voters are not. ...

Our leaders are divided and on the wrong track. I call for all Christians to pray for them. Fear and finances have replaced faith and family values. A historic reminder: Gov. Mike Huckabee is exactly where Ronald Reagan was in 1979 in the polls and in finances. With everything up for grabs in this next election, NOW is the time for the uncompromising and unified grass roots to rise up and lead.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: janetfolger; mikehuckabee; unity; valuesvoters; worldnetdaily
Janet Folger argues that political expediency will not defeat the Left. Only a commitment to values of faith and family will. And values voters should back a candidate who stands behind those values.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

1 posted on 11/12/2007 10:10:33 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

Mike Huckabee. The Socialist From Arkansas. http://www.cofcc.org/?p=811

Mike Huckabee disses Americans, Mexicans, promotes illegal immigration
http://lonewacko.com/blog/archives/005609.html

Christians Need To Beware Of Mike Huckabee
http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2007/cbarchive_20071102.html

While Gov. of Arkansas, Huckabee was AGAINST proving citizenship in order to register to vote. He called those who were in favor of this “racists”...
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050218/news_lz1e18perkins.html

Huckabee fought hard to kill an Arkansas bill which would have cut off social services for illegal aliens. Huckabee called the bill, “anti-Christian” and “un-American”...
http://www.arkansasnews.com/archive/2005/01/28/News/316347.html

Huckabee supported in-state tuition for illegal aliens...
http://www.arkansasnews.com/archive/2005/03/11/News/318458.html

Huck’s opposition to the illegal aliens bill:

http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/000718.html


2 posted on 11/12/2007 10:28:16 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: goldstategop

If Mike Huckabee promises to close the border, deport illegal aliens and campaign for English only - I’ll thing about it.


3 posted on 11/12/2007 10:33:16 PM PST by donna (We live in this fog of political correctness, where everything is perpetual deception.-John Hagee)
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To: donna

See #2


4 posted on 11/12/2007 10:52:08 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thank you for the comprehensive reply. I can only add that Huckabee was quoted as saying that people who want to close the border are “racists and bigots”. That is my deal breaker.

Huckabee is reported to be enjoying a surge in the polls and donations. Last week Hannity interviewed him on the radio, spent almost all the interview saying how bad Hillary would be, spent the last few minutes on the subject of weight loss, never brought up one substantive issue. With interviews like that, the folks in Iowa and NH will never find out what a quisling Huckabee is on sovereignty and illegal aliens.


5 posted on 11/12/2007 10:58:35 PM PST by Knutsdatter
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To: goldstategop
I agree completely that we need unity and should not compromise by voting for a nonconservative candidate.

Vote for Fred Thompson.

6 posted on 11/12/2007 11:03:25 PM PST by Route66 (America's Main Street - - - President Fred D. Thompson /"The Constitution means what is says.")
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To: Route66

BTTT


7 posted on 11/12/2007 11:09:27 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: goldstategop

I am. I’m backing thompson, not the poor sport amnesty seeking big government promoting liberal who’s only claim is that he is a pro-life. Big deal. So am I. I’m a values voter as well. I voted primarily for G.W.B. based on “Character”, “pro-Life” and “judges”. And I’m saying point blank Huckabee is not acceptable to me. he reminds me of Clinton in temperment which is NOT a compliment.


8 posted on 11/12/2007 11:44:23 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I had to source some links yesterday for some "New Guests" who were trying to push Mike Huckabee as a "Christian Conservative".

What part of "Christian Conservative" do these people NOT GET?

There's WAAAAY too much source material on this. Huckabee is over before he's started. It's the liberal media trying to set up a straw man that they can knock down for the election by driving off the conservative base.

Huckabee’s tax and spend background

Mike Huckabee smacked again on taxes and spending

The enemy knows him well, they've already got their line of attack prepared:

Busy Huckabee Tries to Fudge His Record On Taxes In New Hampshire

Oh, and don't get me started on immigration. Don't go there! Oh well...

More on Huckabee and immigration–It’s about the children

"In a nutshell, Huckabee’s stance on illegal immigration is that illegals who are caught should be deported. Period. But if they are not caught, and instead remain here to raise their families, Huckabee’s pro-life sentiment drives him to support providing prenatal care for all unborn children–no questions asked. And because the Arkansas constitution dictates that all children, regardless of legal status, be provided with public education K-12, Huckabee believes those who graduate and are academically eligible deserve to be eligible for in-state tuition rates."

Is the law the law or not, Mr. Huckabee? Were you against AMNESTY BY ANY OTHER NAME before you were for it?


9 posted on 11/13/2007 2:22:20 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: goldstategop
Huckabee is one of those strange paradoxes to the Values Voter -- he's got the moral absolutist portion down pat, is an economic populist, but is sympathatic to immigration.

Like Huckabee, I also believe that the immigration issue has too much xenophonia mixed into it. You would be hard pressed to find someone who would be bold enough to write that legal immigration makes our country worse off yet it's illegal immigrants that likely are taxed nearly as much as their legal counterparts while not creating an entitlement liability in the future. You'd think that we'd pass legislation making it easier for others to work here legally.

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But it's the spending and taxing issues that have me really concerned about Huckabee -- economic freedom is not something I hear TaxHike Mike champion all that often. In fact, I do not hear Values Voters champion economic liberty all that often, either. This begs the questions to ask of the Values Voters: 1) what is the proper role of government as far as gay/lesbians are concerned and why is this issue so important to you? 2) if you are to love your neighbor (your fellow man), then why do you show such a disdain for him when he comes from south of our border? The vast majority have similar values as you do but they've broken laws because our current legislation regarding entry is inadequate and our generous (yet socialistic) social safety nets attracts some that we may not want to have come here not to mention our own citizens who abuse (and become dependent on) these programs. 3) what parts of economic freedom are off-putting to the Values Voters and why isn't economic freedom a value to uphold that has as much of an equal footing as pro-life causes?

10 posted on 11/13/2007 3:31:33 AM PST by LowCountryJoe (I'm a Paleo-liberal: I believe in freedom; am socially independent and a borderline fiscal anarchist)
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To: goldstategop

If it’s rootie, mitt or huck... we’re ******!

LLS


11 posted on 11/13/2007 4:36:26 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: goldstategop

We have discussed this topic in our Wednesday night men’s class at church. If Americans would stand up and vote by their values (particularly Christians) instead of their pocketbook, their family party affiliation, or for the one they think is “electable” and would instead vote for the candidate who most closely reflects their values - then we could elect anyone we wanted to.

Yet so many who claim to be Christians are just fine with electing a pro-abortion, pro-homosexual liberal in the name of “electability” or over a subsidy payment (we have several farmers who are members of our church).


12 posted on 11/13/2007 5:04:51 AM PST by TheBattman (Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: Route66

Fred Thompson? The one who believes that abortion should be legal if a state wants it to be? What happened to values?


13 posted on 11/13/2007 5:05:46 AM PST by TheBattman (Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: LowCountryJoe
Like Huckabee, I also believe that the immigration issue has too much xenophonia mixed into it.

You can call me anything you like, but I want to live in America, not Mexico. All illegal aliens should be deported.

Huckabee wants to prove he's a better Christian than I am by giving my home away to illegal aliens. He needs to get over himself.

14 posted on 11/13/2007 6:46:20 AM PST by donna (They hand off my culture & citizenship to criminals & then call me racist for objecting?)
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To: goldstategop

I truly don’t get this desire to see Mike Huckabee as President. Is it because he’s a preacher; is that why the ‘Values Voters’ group thinks he’s so hot?


15 posted on 11/13/2007 10:12:57 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: goldstategop

I don’t disagree with the basic premise of this article. However, I don’t think Huckabee is the best choice. I don’t think nanny-statism is a value we should be voting for.


16 posted on 11/13/2007 10:20:04 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: TheBattman
Fred Thompson? The one who believes that abortion should be legal if a state wants it to be? What happened to values?

No. Fred Thompson. The one who believes that the citizens of this country have been denied their right of due process, by fiats from leftist Federal Judges, for far too long. He knows that if the issue of abortion were sent to the states, there would be thousands more babies saved each year than the situation we have now. He also knows that, though a Human Life Amendment would be a good thing, it will NOT be passed in our lifetimes, yours, mine OR his.

In order for the HLA to occur, it has to pass BOTH houses of Congress and get signed by the President. Then it has to be sent to the states for ratification. As Fred said recently, if we couldn't get it introduced when we had a Republican House, Senate AND White House, it's not going to happen. Far better to find a solution that would start saving babies NOW, than continue to be purists, and yammer about the issue for 35 more years.

17 posted on 11/13/2007 10:20:41 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: TheBattman

Uh, not to be argumentative, but I think you may have it wrong simply because even if we Christians all voted only our values............we’d lose because we’re outnumbered.


18 posted on 11/13/2007 10:25:00 AM PST by glide625
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To: glide625

105 million turned out to vote in the 2000 election, and close to 123 million in 2004.

According to figures I have seen - there are over 150 million people who claim to be Christian (I know that can mean a lot of things), reflecting over 77% of the adult population.


19 posted on 11/13/2007 11:28:36 AM PST by TheBattman (Duncan Hunter '08)
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