Why the Ron Paul Campaign is Dangerous

NewsBull ^ | November 11, 2007 | JB Williams

[PlainOleAmerican]

I hate wasting this much press time on Ron Paul. But the Paul campaign is becoming a real threat to the Republican primary process and if allowed to continue, he will take votes away from the most conservative Republican candidates in the party, not the most liberal. This is bad for the party and the country.

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So, how Republican is Republican candidate Ron Paul?

If he’s funded largely by anti-war leftists, from Democrat stronghold districts and counting on Democrats, Libertarians and members of the Green Party to win the Republican nomination, not very…

[listenhillary]

google paulistinian /;!}

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

At least those kids aren't out there waving Mao and Che posters.

[ari-freedom]

At least those kids aren’t out there waving Mao and Che posters.
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they are together with them in protests...I bet you won’t see Paulers with the freepers supporting the troops on veteran’s day

[JerseyHighlander]

There is a problem with this guys assumptions. Using his idea that a donor’s Zip code equates with their political leanings is simplisticly foolish and easily refutable.

http://opensecrets.org/2000elect/geog/P00003335.htm

There, the EXACT SAME argument, even using the same zip codes and metro areas, could have been used to attempt to discredit George Bush in the 2000 election.

(More simply, wealthy people who donate to campaigns don’t want to live in the cornfields of western Nebraska.)

Let me state that Eric Dondero is a good guy, and his opinion carries some weight regarding Paul’s mental state. That is disturbing.

[PlainOleAmerican]

Follow the facts to their natural conclusion and you decide.

The column tells on what basis it’s statements are made. Former Ron Paul aide and founder of the Libertarian Republican Caucus, official campaign fund filings and Ron Paul campaign sites telling non-Republicans to switch parties to vote for Paul in the Republican primaries.

None of those are “assumptions.” Those appear to be fact.

[moondoggie]

I think the Dems are in trouble.

They don't have a single candidate running who could win in a national election...including Billary.

Unless, of course, they see to it that a very weak Republican is our nominee.

The better Paul finishes in the primaries, the more Repubs start dropping out due to lack of support and funding, etc.

[deport]

If Republicans want a nominee selected and funded by voters who normally support leftist Democrats, Ron Paul is your guy...

But if Republicans want a Republican nominated by Republicans to run against Hillary, it's time to put an end to the Ron Paul campaign...

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I don't for a moment think that the supporters of Paul will be sufficiently large enough to even come close to winning the Republican nomination. Even a quote from your posted article tells you who the majority of them are. The remaining voters will be the normal GOP voters/independents etc and will elect the candidate whether Paul and his group or there are not....

So, how Republican is Republican candidate Ron Paul?

If he’s funded largely by anti-war leftists, from Democrat stronghold districts and counting on Democrats, Libertarians and members of the Green Party to win the Republican nomination, not very…

Never the less in 52 days we'll see the selection process begin to play out.....

[svcw]

Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago.......

You may be correct at least in part.
My grandparents did not have to pay vehicle tax, they had no car.
No utility tax or phone tax because they had neither.
Made their own cigarets and grain liquor, so no tax there.
Had a well, no water tax.
No sewer tax, had an out house.

Lets see 1907, do I really want to go back to the country as it was then?

NO!

[billbears]

At first, I assumed, and had even written, that Ron Paul’s financial support was coming from the Libertarian wing of the Republican Party. Then I was corrected by former Ron Paul aide and founder of the Libertarian Republican Caucus, Eric Dondero, who also founded MainstreamLibertarian.com and hosts blogtalk radio show Libertarian Politics Live.

LOL, JB Williams getting his facts from Dondero. Well that's a valid source...

Upon investigation, it appears that Mr. Dondero is exactly right. Much of Ron Paul’s money is not coming from mainstream Libertarians or Republicans.

And he provides zip codes as 'evidence'. Wow, JB didn't know conservatives could only live in the certain zip codes. You've convinced me!!!

But if Republicans want a Republican nominated by Republicans to run against Hillary, it's time to put an end to the Ron Paul campaign...

Yep because the absolutely last thing the Republican party can stand for is liberty and freedom.

You know this isn't even a good hit piece. What's Mr. Williams day job?

[riri]

I don't know if his followers are discarded Dems or Republicans but one thing is for certain. By and large, they have an, almost, obsessive hate for Republicans and conservatives in general.

They seem to try and pretend to hold a position they they are equally as contemptful of both "sides" but I rarely see the foaming at the mouth toward the liberal candidates.

Overall, they seem to be a pollyanna-ish lot who focus way too much on how things should be, than how things can be.

[traviskicks]

if allowed to continue, he will take votes away from the most conservative Republican candidates in the party, not the most liberal. This is bad for the party and the country.

If the above is true, the author's premise about Paul being supported by leftists and leftist libertarians and liberals is seriously challenged. I'm not sure he can have it both ways. I think the above is true. Thompson and Trancredo are viewed by many Paul supporters, in my personel experience, as being the only other Republicans they can say some kind words about.

The only Republicans we find in his campaign are those myopic small government conservatives angry with Bush for his Democrat-like spending habits.

only? lol I think there is a big number of these, and they account for the majority of Paul's support, IMO. Various internet polls of Paul supporters indicate 2-3-4:1:1 R I D

[darkwing104]

google paulistinian /;!}

That is what lead me to the conclusion that the paulistinians are a cult...

[PlainOleAmerican]

Don’t kid yourself in such a childish manner...

If Paul was running as the third party candidate he really is, no problem.

If he were running as a republican on a republican platform seeking republican support, again, no problem.

But he is doing neither. He is using leftist talking points to appeal to leftist voters, using leftist money to pursue a Republican nomination....

That’s the problem.

Do you honestly not get this, or do you get it, but prefer to act like it isn’t so?

[traviskicks]

heh heh...

[JerseyHighlander]

Did you, or did you not support George Bush’s 2000 election campaign, either in the primaries or at least in the general election?

Did you, or did you not support George Bush’s 2004 election campaign, either in the primaries or at least in the general election?

http://opensecrets.org/presidential/geog.asp?id=N00008072&cycle=2004

This article is patently stupid. I can’t find another word for it besides “stupid propaganda.”

LIES, DAMN LIES, AND STATISTICS.

People posting this on FreeRepublic are making this site look ridiculous.

[Puddleglum]

Lets see 1907, do I really want to go back to the country as it was then? -- NO

Why not? Life was too hard?

[A CA Guy]

I agree with you that if he ran as the GREEN PARTY candidate, he would do exactly that.

Outside of that, he would be Hillary’s greatest wet dream of the last 20 years.

[listenhillary]

“Lets see 1907, do I really want to go back to the country as it was then? — NO”
“Why not? Life was too hard?”

In the weeks that our responses would take to show up on the Free Republic forum by mail, the moment would be lost!

[Mr. Jeeves]

Upon investigation, it appears that Mr. Dondero is exactly right. Much of Ron Paul’s money is not coming from mainstream Libertarians or Republicans. Although he is running as a Republican, he actually has very little support from rank and file Republicans, as every national Republican poll confirms. But it turns out that he has very little support from mainstream Libertarians either. As Dondero pointed out, “Ron Paul is only attracting support from the leftwing side of the libertarian spectrum, virtually none of whom are Republicans.”

If that's the case, why are Republicans so freaked out that they are calling for "shutting down" Paul's campaign? We've heard for years that if a "true conservative" ran he would win easily...so what possible difference does it make if a Ron Paul is out there with an (R) after his name getting cross-over primary votes from liberals?

The only thing I see here is a tired, paternalistic old party feeling threatened that the kids might be listening to a message Dad doesn't approve of... ;)

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

This article is patently stupid. I can’t find another word for it besides “stupid propaganda.”

It's incisive, cutting edge econo-political analyses such as these, ultimately, that have gifted the Ron Paul for President movement with the sparkling online reputation it enjoys today.

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK! ;)