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Why the Ron Paul Campaign is Dangerous
NewsBull ^ | November 11, 2007 | JB Williams

Posted on 11/11/2007 12:39:35 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican

I hate wasting this much press time on Ron Paul. But the Paul campaign is becoming a real threat to the Republican primary process and if allowed to continue, he will take votes away from the most conservative Republican candidates in the party, not the most liberal. This is bad for the party and the country.

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So, how Republican is Republican candidate Ron Paul?

If he’s funded largely by anti-war leftists, from Democrat stronghold districts and counting on Democrats, Libertarians and members of the Green Party to win the Republican nomination, not very…

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To: PlainOleAmerican

Facts or assumptions?


41 posted on 11/11/2007 1:04:53 PM PST by DeaconBenjamin
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To: A CA Guy
Wrong...

You have it backwards. If he ran on a third party ticket, he would drain more anti-war votes from Democrats than from Republicans.

As it is, he is looking to hijack the RNC nomination using leftist money and leftist votes to over-ride the legitimate Republican primary vote. At worst, he could be nominated atop the RNC ticket by members of the DNC. (Not likely)

But at best, he can drain off votes from more conservative RNC candidates leaving Rudy atop the nomination. (possible)

No matter how you cut it, it’s dangerous to conservatives. What Republican would support such a thing?

42 posted on 11/11/2007 1:05:01 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: SJackson

She wants to prove that she has bigger b@lls than her husband/beard.


43 posted on 11/11/2007 1:05:10 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: PlainOleAmerican
After 10 years of freeping, it's really sad to see so many neocons upset about the growing number of young, netwise Republicans who are wildly excited about a dark horse candidate who preaches limited govt and a return to basic constitutional values. How does hate and anger help the cause/help the party? C'mon, folks, the elephant has a big tent, room for everybody here... there are young people all over the country who are getting involved and showing up at Republican events this year because of Ron Paul, instead of mouthing the tired socialist pablum we so often see at college campuses near an election year. Like it or not, there is a contingent of Liberty lovers in the Republican Party, and their ability to recruit younger folks should be valued and appreciated, not ran out of town on a rail of derision. If you disagree with their goals (drug legalization, pullback of troops, etc), at least recognize the value of their method: use the constitution as a guiding light, reduce govt, reduce taxes.

At least those kids aren't out there waving Mao and Che posters.
44 posted on 11/11/2007 1:05:30 PM PST by Mudcat (What would Reagan do?)
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To: ari-freedom

Also a problem, but one that should work itself out within the party, not from across the aisle.


45 posted on 11/11/2007 1:06:54 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
As Dondero pointed out, “Ron Paul is only attracting support from the leftwing side of the libertarian spectrum, virtually none of whom are Republicans.”

Which is really odd when you consider that Paul is pro-life, and the left side of the libertarians is usually as militantly pro-choice as the most liberal Democrat. I think it shows the degree to which the militant anti-war left has wedded itself to the Paul campaign as a Trojan horse to try and screw up the Republicans. You really think any of the Code Pinko/Troofer types that walk around their anti-war rallies with "Ron Paul 2008" signs give a damn about Constitutional government or the gold standard? All they hear is "bring the troops home now."

This, to me, is the sad thing about Ron Paul. I don't think the guy's a kook. I like his constant Quixotic fights for constitutional small government, and I agree with many of his domestic positions (though I wish he'd be clearer and more concrete in his positions on his website). But none of that matters because his foreign policy is somewhere between naive and suicidal.

}:-)4

46 posted on 11/11/2007 1:07:49 PM PST by Moose4 (Ron Paul is like a beautiful plate of food ruined by a cow patty.)
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To: ari-freedom; PlainOleAmerican; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
ust because there are people willing to throw their money down the toilet doesn’t mean he’s dangerous.
Rudy is the most dangerous to the GOP precisely because he is not an anti-war kook.

It's a double-edged sword. Paul can do to the GOP nomination what Perot did to the national election in 1992 and throw the nomination to Rooty.

47 posted on 11/11/2007 1:07:53 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Mudcat
a return to basic constitutional values... only not so much.
48 posted on 11/11/2007 1:08:16 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Ron Paul and his flaming antiwar spam monkeys can Kiss my Ass!!" -- Jim Robinson, 09/30/07)
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To: wagglebee

Exactly, but here parties core constituents aren’t.

Code Pink and MoveOn have a different plan and that makes Hillary vulnerable.


49 posted on 11/11/2007 1:08:18 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: Moose4
Which is really odd when you consider that Paul is pro-life, and the left side of the libertarians is usually as militantly pro-choice as the most liberal Democrat.

They don't want him to win the election, just screw up the GOP.

50 posted on 11/11/2007 1:09:08 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

How, they’re the same people?


51 posted on 11/11/2007 1:11:01 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: PlainOleAmerican
He can't take votes from Hunter or Tancredo!

If the Pubes nominate ~~"same as all the rest"~~(R), then we get what we deserve, a lib by another name!

If we get some REAL rock ribs on the ticket, the left will melt under their own divisions.

52 posted on 11/11/2007 1:11:14 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (The standard measuring unit for human feces.One katiecouric is aproximately2 1/2 pounds of excrement)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

Good points.


53 posted on 11/11/2007 1:11:54 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Mudcat
After 10 years of freeping, it's really sad to see so many neocons upset about the growing number of young, netwise Republicans who are wildly excited about a dark horse candidate who preaches limited govt and a return to basic constitutional values. How does hate and anger help the cause/help the party? C'mon, folks, the elephant has a big tent, room for everybody here... there are young people all over the country who are getting involved and showing up at Republican events this year because of Ron Paul, instead of mouthing the tired socialist pablum we so often see at college campuses near an election year. Like it or not, there is a contingent of Liberty lovers in the Republican Party, and their ability to recruit younger folks should be valued and appreciated, not ran out of town on a rail of derision. If you disagree with their goals (drug legalization, pullback of troops, etc), at least recognize the value of their method: use the constitution as a guiding light, reduce govt, reduce taxes.

At least those kids aren't out there waving Mao and Che posters.

Quoted - well said. And he attracts other folks who are tired of being told by the Republican Party that "big government is here to stay - live with it."

54 posted on 11/11/2007 1:14:04 PM PST by Puddleglum
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To: darkwing104
Ok, fine, then Cultist Worms it is...

Sheesh...

55 posted on 11/11/2007 1:14:13 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Real voters in real voting booths will elect FDT.)
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To: rawcatslyentist; PlainOleAmerican
He can't take votes from Hunter or Tancredo!

If enough 'Rats/Greens/Commies vote in the GOP primaries, they can ensure that the nomination is not decided before the convention and make Paul the "king maker." And that would be a disaster.

56 posted on 11/11/2007 1:14:45 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Moose4

“the militant anti-war left has wedded itself to the Paul campaign as a Trojan horse to try and screw up the Republicans.”


My thoughts exactly.


57 posted on 11/11/2007 1:14:50 PM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (Ron Paul is nutcase, plain & simple.)
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To: rawcatslyentist

Food for thought on one source of Ron Paul’s appeal (from a email, so take it with a grain of salt):

Tax his land,
Tax his bed,
Tax the table
At which he’s fed.

Tax his tractor,
Tax his mule,
Teach him taxes
Are the rule.

Tax his cow,
Tax his goat,
Tax his p ants,
Tax his coat.

Tax his ties,
Tax his shirt,
Tax his work,
Tax his dirt.

Tax his tobacco,
Tax his drink,
Tax him if he
Tries to think.

Tax his cigars,
Tax his beers,
If he cries, then
Tax his tears.

Tax his car,
Tax his gas,
Find other ways
To tax his ass.

Tax all he has,
Then let him know
That you won’t be done
Till he has no dough.

When he screams and hollers,
Then tax him some more,
Tax him till
He’s good and sore.

Then tax his coffin,
Tax his grave,
Tax the sod in
Which he’s laid.

Put these words
upon his tomb,
“Taxes drove me to my doom.”

When he’s gone,
Do not relax,
Its time to apply
The inheritance tax.

Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Dog License Tax
Excise Taxes
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel Permit Tax
Gasoline Tax (42 cents per gallon)
Gross Receipts Tax
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax
Inventory Tax
IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Personal Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Service Charge Tax
Social Security Tax
Road Usage Tax
Sales Tax
Recreational Vehicle Tax
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone Federal Excise Tax
Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
Telephone Recurring and Non-recurr i ng Charges Tax
Telephone State and Local Tax
Telephone Usage Charge Tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax

STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?

Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, and our nation was the most prosperous in the world. We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.

What happened? Can you spell “politicians?”

And I still have to “press 1”for English.


58 posted on 11/11/2007 1:19:02 PM PST by Puddleglum
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To: PlainOleAmerican

If a screwball like RP is a threat to anyone or anything, tough for them/that.


59 posted on 11/11/2007 1:19:59 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: PlainOleAmerican
I saw a group of five or so people on an overpass in LA yesterday with Ron Paul signs. Their overall age looked to be 13 years old--oh, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and say 14, but that is the highest. Before I saw the signs I just saw a small group of obnoxious looking white kids standing on the ledge looking as though they were up to no good. This was the attitude emanating from them.

Tells me a lot about what sort of support this guy is getting and by whom. 14 year olds . . . they can't even vote. There was not one adult. Wonder how much they were paid.

60 posted on 11/11/2007 1:22:10 PM PST by GOP Poet
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