Why the Ron Paul Campaign is Dangerous

NewsBull ^ | November 11, 2007 | JB Williams

[PlainOleAmerican]

I hate wasting this much press time on Ron Paul. But the Paul campaign is becoming a real threat to the Republican primary process and if allowed to continue, he will take votes away from the most conservative Republican candidates in the party, not the most liberal. This is bad for the party and the country.

(snip)

So, how Republican is Republican candidate Ron Paul?

If he’s funded largely by anti-war leftists, from Democrat stronghold districts and counting on Democrats, Libertarians and members of the Green Party to win the Republican nomination, not very…

[wagglebee]

The zip code in Chicago is a fairly affluent area (Roger Ebert lives there) and they are probably not tech jobs.

[darkwing104]

I've been saying this on this board for two months now

Your assertions are proving to be correct. Good Job.

[ari-freedom]

currently show him below 45 support
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you forgot to shift the 5 to %

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

What you get when you Google "Ron Paul meetup democraticunderground."

(... but these are good, sane conservatives making up his support base, mind you...) ;)

[PlainOleAmerican]

Damn those facts!

[JerseyHighlander]

You are personally insulting me because you can't defend your position.

I am not a RP supporter in any serious sense.

Just compare this, the statistics on donation for RP

http://opensecrets.org/pres08/geog.asp?id=N00005906&cycle=2008

with this, donation for GW Bush 2000 election.

http://opensecrets.org/2000elect/geog/P00003335.htm

Ron Paul:

RON PAUL (R)
Contributions by Geography

		Texas	$732,178	17%
		California	$701,874	17%
		Florida	$295,741	7%
		Illinois	$163,782	4%
		Other States	$2,299,581	55%

Top Metro Areas:

DALLAS	$186,619
LOS ANGELES-LONG BEACH	$157,811
AUSTIN-SAN MARCOS	$135,582
CHICAGO	$124,340
HOUSTON	$122,965

Top Zip Codes:

75205 (Dallas, TX)	$34,250
77566 (Lake Jackson, TX)	$23,650
78212 (San Antonio, TX)	$15,850
78731 (Austin, TX)	$13,901
78746 (Austin, TX)	$13,200
75206 (Dallas, TX)	$12,175
85253 (Paradise Valley, AZ)	$11,750
94117 (San Francisco, CA)	$10,401
60614 (Chicago, IL)	$10,350
75230 (Dallas, TX)	$9,900

[ishabibble]

>>...not just fawn at the feet of the favorite son picked by the party machine.<< DUNCAN HUNTER.

You want to define conservatism? DUNCAN HUNTER.

Do you want to stop all this nitpicking and unite behind the one man who has all of the qualifications with none of the assorted baggage? DUNCAN HUNTER.

Why are people, even here on FR, so @@$@@$^%& STUPID?

[PlainOleAmerican]

“You can disagree with the rationale behind the Iraq War without being a nut.”

Yeah, but you can’t run and hide from the war on terror with being a card carrying idiot...

[PlainOleAmerican]

This time, FR polls are tracking with all national trends...

[PlainOleAmerican]

Okay, that’s fair... sorry for being so short sighted! LOL

[JerseyHighlander]

Bush 2000 election: PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH
Contributions by Geography

Top States:

	Texas	$16,833,350
	California	$9,195,681
	Florida	$5,762,877
	New York	$4,892,257
	Other States	$44,334,310

Top Metro Areas:

Washington, DC-MD-VA-WV	$4,746,968
Dallas	$4,542,352
Houston	$4,172,501
New York	$3,144,909
Los Angeles-Long Beach	$2,765,788
Chicago	$1,830,066
Detroit	$1,786,581
San Francisco	$1,592,963
Boston, MA-NH	$1,463,943
Atlanta	$1,408,274

Top Zip Codes:

75205 (Dallas, TX)	$723,571
10021 (New York, NY)	$657,120
75225 (Dallas, TX)	$576,823
77024 (Houston, TX)	$554,698
77019 (Houston, TX)	$465,284
06830 (Greenwich, CT)	$349,400
77056 (Houston, TX)	$343,175
78209 (San Antonio, TX)	$298,394
06831 (Greenwich, CT)	$281,369
78746 (Austin, TX)	$261,250

METHODOLOGY: The numbers on this page are calculated from contributions of more than $200 from individuals, as reported to the Federal Election Commission. PAC dollars are not included.

NOTE: All the numbers on this page are for the 1999-2000 election cycle and based on Federal Election Commission data released on November 1, 2001. Feel free to distribute or cite this material, but please credit the Center for Responsive Politics. Help! The nu

[Solitar]

What we have here is a candidate trying to win the Republican nomination by raising money from liberals across the political aisle.

Giuliani is doing exactly the same thing!

Romney is also a liberal!

Is this what the Republican party has come to -- big-government, anti-defense, anti-gun, anti-border control, neo-socialists!

I'd almost prefer a Scoop Jackson!

[deport]

This time, FR polls are tracking with all national trends...

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Really...... National Polls don’t have Thompson or Hunter as the leaders...

[rob777]

"If Ron Paul can win the Republican nomination with support from Republicans, why is his campaign taking money from leftist organizations and promoting party swapping to help him out in primaries that currently show him below 45 support among Republicans?"


I never said that he could win the nomination solely with support from Republicans, in fact, it would be a big surprise to me if he did win the nomination. I am not even a Ron Paul supporter, but I do admire the energy of the grass roots movement that has sprung up to support him. This is something that I have been researching myself to see if the claim that it is all a left wing front is true. While he does attract support from the left, I find this charge to be inaccurate.

My interest in the Ron Paul movement is the long term building of a grass roots movement in support of liberty ala Barry Goldwater. I do not support his candidacy in this election cycle because of his naivety on the threat of Jihadism. I am, however, interested in what will become of the grass roots movement that he has inspired once the elections are over. Is Ron Paul our Barry Goldwater?

[PlainOleAmerican]

“I support Paul’s stance on freedom from government excess.”

So do I and so do most Republicans including most Republican candidates.

“I support his candidacy (his right to run, that is) because he exposes promises the big R party has failed to deliver on.”

You mean you were not aware of this before Ron Paul?

“Also, there was a time when Republicans could disagree on foreign policy and nation-building.”

We still disagree with nation building. We just don’t agree that what we are doing in Iraq is nation building.

“Finally, I hope that voters will find and promote federalist/small FedGov candidates for Congressional and Senate seats, not just fawn at the feet of the favorite son picked by the party machine.”

Again, we agree. But Ron Paul ain’t the guy.

[darkwing104]

After reading your post I have to agree that the Ron Paul phenomenon is providing a good lesson on how to build a grassroots campaign.

[mhx]

the point is not that Republicans are stupid people but rather that Ron Paul is getting stupid people to register as Republicans

Then how is he going to take votes away from the most conservative candidates? The new stupid people who are registering as Republicans would otherwise be voting for conservatives?

That's just a rhetorical question, I don't think I'm really expecting an answer. The premise of the article just didn't make sense to me.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

"Facts are stupid things."

-- Ronald Reagan

"Paulestinians are facts."

-- KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

;)

[PlainOleAmerican]

No, it will be civil war around here, because if he were to win the RNC nomination, it would be with leftist money and votes...

[B4Ranch]

Kent, I see that you hailed the anti Paul crowd. What makes me laugh about you people is that all of you act as if Ron Paul sitting in the White House will have the powers of a king.