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U.S. Says Attack Plans for Iran Ready [US has ample air and naval power to strike Iran]
Military.com ^ | November 08, 2007 | AP

Posted on 11/08/2007 2:36:39 PM PST by Former Military Chick

WASHINGTON - U.S. defense officials have signaled that up-to-date attack plans are available if needed in the escalating crisis over Iran's nuclear aims, although no strike appears imminent.

The Army and Marine Corps are under enormous strain from years of heavy ground fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. Still, the United States has ample air and naval power to strike Iran if President Bush decided to target nuclear sites or to retaliate for alleged Iranian meddling in neighboring Iraq.

Among the possible targets, in addition to nuclear installations like the centrifuge plant at Natanz: Iran's ballistic missile sites, Republican Guard bases, and naval warfare assets that Tehran could use in a retaliatory closure of the Straits of Hormuz, a vital artery for the flow of Gulf oil.

The Navy has an aircraft carrier in the Persian Gulf area with about 60 fighters and other aircraft that likely would feature prominently in a bombing campaign. And a contingent of about 2,200 Marines are on a standard deployment to the Gulf region aboard ships led by the USS Kearsarge, an amphibious assault ship. Air Force fighters and bombers are available elsewhere in the Gulf area, including a variety of warplanes in Iraq and at a regional air operations center in Qatar.

But there has been no new buildup of U.S. firepower in the region. In fact there has been some shrinkage in recent months. After adding a second aircraft carrier in the Gulf early this year - a move that Secretary of Defense Robert Gates said was designed to underscore U.S. long-term stakes in the region - the Navy has quietly returned to a one-carrier presence.

Talk of a possible U.S. attack on Iran has surfaced frequently this year, prompted in some cases by hard-line statements by White House officials. Vice President Dick Cheney, for example, stated on Oct. 21 that the United States would "not allow Iran to have a nuclear weapon," and that Iran would face "serious consequences" if it continued in that direction. Gates, on the other hand, has emphasized diplomacy.

Bush suggested on Oct. 17 that Iran's continued pursuit of nuclear arms could lead to "World War III." Yet on Wednesday, in discussing Iran at a joint press conference with French President Nicolas Sarkozy, Bush made no reference to the military option.

"The idea of Iran having a nuclear weapon is dangerous, and, therefore, now is the time for us to work together to diplomatically solve this problem," Bush said, adding that Sarkozy also wants a peaceful solution.

Iran's conventional military forces are generally viewed as limited, not among the strongest in the Middle East. But a leading expert on the subject, Anthony Cordesman of the Center for Strategic and International Studies, says it would be a mistake to view the Islamic republic as a military weakling.

"Its strengths in overt conflict are more defensive than offensive, but Iran has already shown it has great capability to resist outside pressure and any form of invasion and done so under far more adverse and divisive conditions than exist in Iran today," Cordesman wrote earlier this year.

Cordesman estimates that Iran's army has an active strength of around 350,000 men.

At the moment, there are few indications of U.S. military leaders either advising offensive action against Iran or taking new steps to prepare for that possibility. Gates has repeatedly emphasized that while military action cannot be ruled out, the focus is on diplomacy and tougher economic sanctions.

Asked in late October whether war planning had been ramped up or was simply undergoing routine updates, Gates replied, "I would characterize it as routine." His description of new U.S. sanctions announced on Oct. 25 suggested they are not a harbinger of war, but an alternative.

A long-standing responsibility of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is to maintain and update what are called contingency plans for potential military action that a president might order against any conceivable foe. The secret plans, with a range of timelines and troop numbers, are based on a variety of potential scenarios - from an all-out invasion like the March 2003 march on Baghdad to less demanding missions.

Another military option for Washington would be limited, clandestine action by U.S. special operations commandos, such as Delta Force soldiers, against a small number of key nuclear installations.

The man whose responsibility it would be to design any conventional military action against Iran - and execute it if ordered by Bush - is Adm. William Fallon, the Central Command chief. He is playing down prospects of conflict, saying in a late September interview that there is too much talk of war.

"This constant drumbeat of conflict is what strikes me, which is not helpful and not useful," Fallon told Al-Jazeera television, adding that he does not expect a war against Iran. During a recent tour of the Gulf region, Fallon made a point of telling U.S. allies that Iran is not as strong as it portrays itself.

"Not militarily, economically or politically," he said.

Fallon's immediate predecessor, retired Army Gen. John Abizaid, raised eyebrows in September when he suggested that initiating a war against Iran would be a mistake. He urged vigorous efforts to stop Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons, but failing that, he said, "There are ways to live with a nuclear Iran." He also said he believed Iran's leaders could be dissuaded from using nuclear arms, once acquired.

The possibility of U.S. military action raises many tough questions, beginning perhaps with the practical issue of whether the United States knows enough about Iran's network of nuclear sites - declared sites as well as possible clandestine ones - to sufficiently set back or destroy their program.

Among other unknowns: Iran's capacity to retaliate by unleashing terrorist strikes against U.S. targets.

Nonmilitary specialists who have studied Iran's nuclear program are doubtful of U.S. military action.

"There is a nontrivial chance that there will be an attack, but it's not likely," said Jeffrey Lewis, director of a nuclear strategy project at the New America Foundation, a nonpartisan public policy group.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airstrikes; bombiran; iran; iraniannukes; persiangulf; usn; usskearsarge
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To: Former Military Chick

Advise Iran that they have 7 days to evacuate their facilities and then use a tactical nuke on the general area rendering it visible from space for years to come and too dangerous to approach or use what’s left.


21 posted on 11/08/2007 3:57:06 PM PST by vigilence
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To: buck61

If we attack them, they suddenly have a reason to use any nuclear device they may have and also to incite much of the ME against us.

If we leave them alone, they can strengthen their nuclear program and strike when the time comes.

Either way, such chaos fits within their eschatological framework for the events leading to the return of the Twelfth Imam that forms the bedrock for Ahmadinejad’s policies.


22 posted on 11/08/2007 4:21:20 PM PST by Lexinom (Your hopes and dreams rest on your right to life. GoHunter08.com)
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To: maineman

What??? Give them a bunch of mops, buckets and sponges???

Ok, I’m hip to that idea...Thats what we got after Tropical Storm Allison back in 2001...Super!!!

Not that we were expecting much help there...

But hey, lets get this party started...Might as well...They are not going to stop till they get a weapon and use it, or allow someone to use it...

I’m in...As always...


23 posted on 11/08/2007 4:25:35 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (Houston Area Texans (I've always been hated))
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To: Former Military Chick

Yeah, sure. It’s good talk for leveraging diplomacy—especially to deal with mullahs who are building nuclear weapons with plans to both cause and incur enormous British/Italian civilian casualties to further incite an intense Muslim world war.

[little irony there.]


24 posted on 11/08/2007 4:45:05 PM PST by familyop
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To: capitalist229
My money is on a CIA black ops provocation end of next summer to thwart Dems WH asspirations [sic].

My money was on you being a retread troll, and I won.

25 posted on 11/08/2007 4:46:03 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Former Military Chick

Whatever we do, don’t cause oil to go up today. Keep the imports coming. We want to see how long it can go much higher, after Iran has nukes.


26 posted on 11/08/2007 4:47:36 PM PST by familyop
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To: Admin Moderator
My money was on you being a retread troll, and I won.

Gadzooks, Admin...ZOT THE KNAVE

27 posted on 11/08/2007 4:54:21 PM PST by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: capitalist229
My money is on a CIA black ops provocation end of next summer to thwart Dems WH asspirations.

My money is on the spellchecker smoking out a troll who has spelling aspirations.

28 posted on 11/08/2007 4:56:57 PM PST by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: aroundabout
These stories about us not being able to effectively wage a 2 front war are nonsense.

I think the worry is that any war with Iran would end up with tens of thousands of Iranians pouring across the Afghanistan and Iraq borders, which would cause problems for us (the least of which, Iranian agents in Iraq have probably already been setting up to help them fight us). We've been killing and capturing Iranians in Iraq for several years, and it's a dirty little secret (not well kept) that they are Quuds and the like - the types of forces that would be prepping to assist Iranian troops crossing the borders into Iraq. Those people have a point - Iran of 2007 is not Iraq of 2003, and my view is that Iran has been building up a force specifically for Iraq, probably when we leave, but they would also be handy for Iran to use in Iraq if we attack.

I don't see us attacking though, because it would hand the 2008 elections over to the Democrats. Regardless of whether we should not, if the majority of Americans are against it, and we do it anyway, then the GOP is finished in politics for a few election cycles.
29 posted on 11/08/2007 4:59:52 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: JennysCool
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JennyCool,


The "time delay" for the US Iranian strike has "always" been driven by the CIA-FBI's success in identifying Iranian Terrorist Cells -- WORLD WIDE.


After three-plus years of rigorous work, the United States, England, France, Italy and Germany are READY.


Thousands will be arrested (clandestinely) World-Wide when the strike happens.

And the New York Times will never have a clue ...


Patton-at-Bastogne



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30 posted on 11/08/2007 5:01:06 PM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: Former Military Chick; Southack; RightWhale; F15Eagle
I hope they do it as fast as Post #11, generated Post #25.

ZZZZZzzzzzzzoooootttttt!!!!!!!

31 posted on 11/08/2007 5:01:36 PM PST by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: Admin Moderator

What were the former handles?


32 posted on 11/08/2007 5:12:15 PM PST by txhurl (Yes there were WMDs and Hillary stiffed another waitress)
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To: Former Military Chick

We should’ve bombed Iran in 1980.


33 posted on 11/08/2007 5:17:16 PM PST by wastedyears (One Marine vs. 550 consultants. Sounds like good odds to me.)
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To: wastedyears
Re: We should’ve bombed Iran in 1980.

AMEN, BROTHER! AMEN!

34 posted on 11/08/2007 5:24:06 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Former Military Chick

I HOPE we have finally learned that putting grunts on the ground is NOT necessary to bring down a regime or force an enemy nation back into the stone age...

If the “moderate Muslims” in Iran prove unwilling or incapable of end this murderous regime and their goal of nuclear weapons -— a very modern and efficient “Crusader” military can...

Remember — in two weeks, Iraq, the most powerful and feared military in the region was totally defeated...

Iran fought this same military for 8 YEARS to a standstill that generated more than 500,000 KIA/WIA on Iran’s side alone...


35 posted on 11/08/2007 5:26:57 PM PST by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Bender2

Heck, I was only born in 1985 and I believe Reagan should’ve beat the pants off ‘em.


36 posted on 11/08/2007 5:31:05 PM PST by wastedyears (One Marine vs. 550 consultants. Sounds like good odds to me.)
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To: wastedyears

I was 33 in 1980 and was doing all I could to get Ronnie to let slip the dogs of war!


37 posted on 11/08/2007 5:33:52 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: txflake; All

Previously banned under the names insideapproach, af22721, tm22721, tm22727, and others.


38 posted on 11/08/2007 5:34:30 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: Bender2

Too bad he didn’t.


39 posted on 11/08/2007 5:35:39 PM PST by wastedyears (One Marine vs. 550 consultants. Sounds like good odds to me.)
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To: Perdogg

Iran ping pong


40 posted on 11/08/2007 5:37:29 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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