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Clinton: Stiffed the waitress? Big tip found
Baltimore Sun ^ | November 8, 2007 | Glenn Thrush,

Posted on 11/08/2007 2:16:14 PM PST by radar101

At first, the story line went like this: Sen. Hillary Clinton may have committed the ultimate political culinary sin -- not tipping the waitress.

But the story was wrong: NPR has retracted its initial report, a nasty little anecdote about iClnton meeting a working-mom waitress at the Maid-Rite eatery in Iowa over the summer, using her story in a speech -- and then stiffing her on the tip.

Now NPR has confirmed the tip with an editor's note: "Since this story aired, Hillary Clinton's campaign contacted NPR to say that the campaign paid Maid-Rite a bill for $100 for food for the day of Clinton's visit and left $57 in tip money. NPR contacted Maid-Rite manager Brad Crawford, who confirmed that a bill was paid and tip money was left.

"Crawford, who was not in the restaurant at the time, said that he believes a campaign staffer left the money with one of his employees, but "where Hillary was sitting, there was no tip left." Neither Anita Esterday nor the manager on duty that day were available for comment as of noon Thursday.''

(Excerpt) Read more at weblogs.baltimoresun.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: damagecontrol; flubba; hillary; hillaryscandals; retroactive
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To: SkyDancer

YOU are an embarrassment to Freeperville since it sounds like YOU don’t tip either!!


121 posted on 11/08/2007 6:33:05 PM PST by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her PHONINESS is REAL!!!)
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To: mmyers
Funny, another news outley said the bill was $57 and a tip of $100 was left.

And yet another said the bill was $157 and the tip was $100.

I didn't see anything on the Maid-Rite menu that cost over $4.99, so I was wondering if Her Heinous actually had thirty staffers traveling with her.

122 posted on 11/08/2007 6:37:12 PM PST by okie01
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To: okie01

I bet she has at LEAST that many....doesn’t change the story though...they didn’t pay OR tip at the time....


123 posted on 11/08/2007 6:40:30 PM PST by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her PHONINESS is REAL!!!)
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To: Tall_Texan

I agree with you Tall, time for this waitress to come forward. I find it amazing that no journalist is knocking on this ladies door.


124 posted on 11/08/2007 6:43:01 PM PST by mware (Americans in armchairs....doing the job of the media.)
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To: radar101
"I may not be one, but at least *I* married a big Tipper..."
125 posted on 11/08/2007 6:45:10 PM PST by mikrofon (Go, AlGOre, GO)
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To: okie01

No, it was $257 and a $157 tip ...
no, $414 and $257 ...
wait, $671 and $414 ........................


126 posted on 11/08/2007 6:58:23 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: SkyDancer

As someone that not only worked as a waitress for a while- & also did books for a restaurant at a later job I will try to explain the problem with that type of thinking.

Tips are so ingrained into the restaurant/bar business that they are considered part of wages. I think it is a bad system, and I don’t agree with it at all. Having said that I always tip- and for great service I tip more. The reason I do this is because the person being tipped has NO control over the system. The person receiving tips is dependent on those tips to make a living wage or in some cases just to make minimum wage. Tips are figured into reported salary, as required by the IRS, so even if the person that served you did not get a tip- they are required to pay taxes on the premise that they did receive tips. If you don’t tip the server, you are actually taking money away from the server in the form of taxes they will be responsible for on money they did not receive.

Servers are at the bottom of the food chain and if they go to their boss for higher salary to make up for no tips they will simply be let go and will have no job. People working jobs of that type have no bargaining power with management. If you don’t like the system a better idea would be to complain to owners, and the IRS for the current system; please don’t punish the server that works hard for very little money.


127 posted on 11/08/2007 7:07:49 PM PST by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: okie01
I didn't see anything on the Maid-Rite menu that cost over $4.99, so I was wondering if Her Heinous actually had thirty staffers traveling with her.


128 posted on 11/08/2007 7:32:21 PM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: SkyDancer
My folks don’t tip - if the server needs more money they should go to their boss ...Ok, tip the bartender at your favorite watering hole hoping you’ll get a little more but that’ll stop when they all go to computer pouring

Your parents don't tip -- well unless it's an under the table "bribe" to cheat the owner? Your parents must be liberals. I'm stunned you would brag about their tacky behavior...

129 posted on 11/08/2007 7:40:26 PM PST by GOPJ ( What's important is NOT who consumes the apples, but who owns the orchard - Buchanan)
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To: SkyDancer

It looks like you’re having a bad day.

Look on the bright side. It’s much better to have a bad day on FR than in the air.


130 posted on 11/08/2007 8:19:36 PM PST by Balata
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To: VirginiaMom
I had to read through the entire thread to see if anyone had made this critical point. In the U.S., because tipping is the custom, the law sets a much lower minimum wage and the IRS assumes waitstaff get and must pay tax on 8% of the bills they present.

But it is a U.S. custom. When I lived in NZ years ago, the waitstaff got paid the regular minimum wage and you only tipped 10%, and only if the service was exceptional. They railed against us Yanks who "overtipped" spoiling life for the locals

Perhaps some of us are not familiar with U.S. customs, minimum wage laws and tax laws. I sure hope so . . . .

131 posted on 11/08/2007 9:27:25 PM PST by rebel_yell2
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To: radar101
Can't get enough loose meat.


132 posted on 11/09/2007 4:02:47 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: radar101
Oh, sorry...from the title, I thought we were talking about Bill.
133 posted on 11/09/2007 4:14:31 AM PST by 50sDad (Liberals: Never Happy, Never Grateful, Never Right.)
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To: Myrddin
I go out to eat almost daily. I patronize restaurants all over town. The servers compete for who gets my table because I'm give consistently good tips for consistently good performance. You get what you give.

DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING DING!

NO more calls, please.

We have a winner!

134 posted on 11/09/2007 4:15:41 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: radar101
Who do you believe?

The waitress. Who got stiffed.
135 posted on 11/09/2007 4:28:07 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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To: Red_Devil 232

One of the first stories indicated that Hillary was provided with a sanwich at no charge by the resturant.

Even if you have a coupon for a discount or a gift card, it is still customary to tip the value it would have been by a percentage based upon the service.

I beleive that the staff purchase was a seperate order and transaction and Hillary, since she has made this mistake previously, should have been responsible enough to leave a personal tip of any size for her individual waitress.


136 posted on 11/09/2007 6:39:20 AM PST by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: Suzy Quzy
NO ONE got paid until the story came out is my bet.

That is quite possible as well. However, the store has owned up to the staff purchase and tip.

I think it is indicative of care and character regardless of what the staff did. Even if the waitress was intended to have a share in the larger tip, Hillary delegated her own courtesy because she couldn't be bothered to execute it herself.

137 posted on 11/09/2007 6:42:31 AM PST by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free...their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: KC Burke

Folks need to remember this in restaurants where you pay at the register. It is OFTEN VERY EASY for the cashier to pocket the tip and give nothing to the waiter/waitress for whom the tip was intended.


138 posted on 11/09/2007 6:47:19 AM PST by a real Sheila (stop hillary NOW!)
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To: KC Burke

I recall working as a waitress in college where customers paid at the register, EVERY one of my customers (and the customers of my coworkers) who didn’t leave money on the table and probably thought they were leaving a tip at the register and the cashier would give it to their server, we never got it. Ever!


139 posted on 11/09/2007 6:51:07 AM PST by a real Sheila (stop hillary NOW!)
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To: radar101
The Beast’s staffers knew better than to place cash on the table in front of Hillary. She would snatch it up!
I do feel bad for this waitress,yet another citizen caught up in the Klintoon’s tornado of lies.
140 posted on 11/09/2007 6:52:33 AM PST by 4yearlurker (Sorry Mr. BOR.)
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