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When an inch is worth a mile (what they're teaching at college)
Daily Collegian (UMass) ^ | 11/08/07 | Mathews

Posted on 11/08/2007 11:07:21 AM PST by pabianice

Point/Counterpoint: When an inch is worth a mile

Sick of Humans v. Zombies? There's a better game in town. For the low, low price of your life as you know it, you could become a U.S. Marine. After a short period of basic training, and an all-expenses-paid flight aboard a luxurious transport jet, you could be living out your wildest "Operation: Iraqi Freedom" fantasies in a fully simulated Iraqi village environment. Your safety is 100 percent guaranteed.

Such are the thoughts that danced through my head after reading up on "Operation Mojave Viper," the U.S military's premier simulated-combat exercise. To make a terrible story short, "Mojave" is a series of patrol drills conducted in a mock-up Iraqi township smack in the middle of the California desert. The drills cover all the basics. They've got real soldiers toting real guns. They've got real Iraqis speaking real Arabic. They've got real everything you need, from combat boots to air support, except, of course, for a few key items: blood, fear, shock, death and war, to name a few.

(Excerpt) Read more at media.www.dailycollegian.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: assclown; liberaltool; libtard; teenrebellion
James Mathews is a Collegian editor. He can be reached at jwmathew@student.umass.edu.
1 posted on 11/08/2007 11:07:23 AM PST by pabianice
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To: pabianice
James:

Put your iPod back on and go back to your local Starbucks and let the Brave Men and Women of the U.S. Armed Forces do their job.

2 posted on 11/08/2007 11:18:10 AM PST by frogjerk
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To: pabianice

I give this article 8 1/2 BARFIES.


3 posted on 11/08/2007 11:26:08 AM PST by ishabibble (ALL-AMERICAN INFIDEL)
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To: pabianice

Young people usually know too little and say too much. James Mathews is young.


4 posted on 11/08/2007 11:26:54 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: pabianice

I didn’t read the full article because, as a general rule, I don’t want to support leftist websites with my internet presence. However, if there is a point to his story, it seems to be that United States military personnel should not engage in exercises that simulate their probable missions unless the simulations include a real possibility of injury or death. In the immortal words of Bugs Bunny: “What a maroon.”


5 posted on 11/08/2007 11:29:42 AM PST by p. henry
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To: pabianice

“Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who’s gonna do it? You? You, {Mr. Mathews}?
I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago, and you curse the Marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That Santiago’s death, while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don’t want the truth because deep down, in places you don’t talk about at parties, you want me on that wall. You need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punch line.
I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just
said thank you, and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don’t give a damn what you think you are entitled to.”

Jack Nicholson, “A Few Good Men.”

TC


6 posted on 11/08/2007 11:36:19 AM PST by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: pabianice
Young Mr. Matthews would no doubt find the current goings-on in Iraq rather inconvenient for his worldview. As usual, he could either act as if the Iraqis were real, flesh-and-blood people who he could actually ask about this sort of thing or he could opine based on the categorical knowledge a 20-year-old has about the world without taking the trouble to actually learn facts. Option B works better for a busy college student with a deadline.

There is an abundance of 20-year-olds who actually have been to Iraq, involved in civic works programs as well as the fighting, who know perfectly well that Matthews is talking through his oversized hat. He should speak to a few of them some time if it is too inconvenient to interview their "victims."

7 posted on 11/08/2007 11:40:46 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: pabianice
You know, you just really have to have yourself a good, old-fashioned belly laugh when a 20-year-old college student from a piece of crap school like Zoo Mass launches into a jeremiad like this. I’m trying to figure out the source of his ire-—was it the existence of a school such as Mojave Viper? Or was that just a flimsy premise on which he hung his harangue?

Oh well. I guess in certain circles, farting out this sort of tripe can get a young man laid.

8 posted on 11/08/2007 11:47:05 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Billthedrill
And he said it all with a straight face, too.

What a moron.

9 posted on 11/08/2007 11:48:32 AM PST by Turret Gunner A20 (:)
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To: pabianice
Puke.

They've got real soldiers toting real guns.

It never fails ... the author describes some person or group as "toting" guns ... and the author proves to be an idiotic, pacifist, leftist.

10 posted on 11/08/2007 11:51:37 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Pentagon Leatherneck

I like that quote. Interesting to me, I just used Col. Jessup in a comparison as an illustration of the direction our country has taken.

Consider the Caine Mutiny. Commander Queeg is not a sympathetic figure. But at the end, the lawyer for the crew gives them heck for ruining a naval officer’s career.

In A Few Good Men, when Col. Jessup is broken down, it’s a climax and something the legal team aspired to. They wanted to get Jessup, Jessup was the bad guy.

In my estimation, Col. Jessup is a much more sympathetic character than Cmdr Queeg, yet we now celebrate taking such a man down. Any wonder we are where we are as a nation?


11 posted on 11/08/2007 11:52:42 AM PST by brownsfan (America has "jumped the shark")
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To: pabianice

I just read this whole article. The word for it is pathetic.

The Unites States military has perfected the art of realistic training. From the National Training Center at Fort Irwin, California, to the US Navy and US Air Force Aggressor Squadrons our military has learned to train as it fights and fight as it trains.

The young Marines who go through this training will make mistakes and learn valuable lessons in an arena where it is not fatal to do so. They will then take those lessons and apply them to real life situations in Iraq.

This training saves Iraqi and American lives. It is a valuable tool, and for a wet-behind-the-ears college student, who knows nothing about military training or the purposes behind it, to be ridiculing it would be laughable, if it were not so tragic.


12 posted on 11/08/2007 12:45:01 PM PST by GreenLanternCorps (Thompson for President: 2008, 2012: Jindal for President 2016, 2020)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
hung his harangue

Oh, that's GOOD!

I may plagiarize it...


13 posted on 11/08/2007 1:01:00 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: GreenLanternCorps

Tragic?? Sickening is the word.


14 posted on 11/08/2007 1:24:22 PM PST by Turret Gunner A20
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To: Turret Gunner A20

I mean’t tragic for the country. I’m posting the same text as a comment on the newspaper website.


15 posted on 11/08/2007 1:30:26 PM PST by GreenLanternCorps (Thompson for President: 2008, 2012: Jindal for President 2016, 2020)
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To: snarks_when_bored

We should put teenagers in charge to solve all the world’s problems while they still know everything.

Age usually brings wisdom and the accompanying humility - unless you’re a liberal, then you never have to get out of the “I know better than anyone in history” mindset.


16 posted on 11/08/2007 1:33:34 PM PST by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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