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Pat Robertson endorses Giuliani
The Politico ^ | November 7, 2007 | Mike Allen

Posted on 11/07/2007 5:51:19 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia

Pat Robertson, one of the nation's most influential Christian leaders, plans to endorse former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani today, the Politico has learned.

Giuliani has struggled to win support of social conservatives because of his moderate views on abortion and gay rights. But now he has one of the most resonant imprimaturs with Christian voters.

Sen. Sam Brownback (R-Kan.), meanwhile, plans to announce his surprise endorsement of former Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) for president on Wednesday, a campaign official told Politico.

The endorsement is to be announced in Dubuque, Iowa.

The alliance gives McCain — once a front-runner, now struggling — a crucial bridge to social conservatives, an important constituency that has remained suspicious of him despite his opposition to abortion.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2008endorsements; abortion; christianvote; giuliani; liberalrepublicans; patrobertson; prolife; rinorudy; rinostampede; rudy; rudygiuliani; scarletwhore; sellout
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Wow....

Just when I thought I couldn’t like Giuliani any less, Pat Robertson opens his mouth.


181 posted on 11/07/2007 10:20:18 AM PST by eraser2005
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

That’s surprising.


182 posted on 11/07/2007 10:20:30 AM PST by Hexenhammer
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To: mewzilla

“Mark 8:36”

Right on scripture....


183 posted on 11/07/2007 10:21:17 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland ("We have to drain the swamp" George Bush, September 2001)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Robertson’s endorsement is more proof the Republican party is continuing to abandon conservative principles to appease more socialistic ideals. The question now is when will conservatives in the GOP wake up and accept the fact the only way their values will be represented is by leaving the GOP and uniting with the large number of unaffiliated conservatives.


184 posted on 11/07/2007 10:23:24 AM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: aligncare

‘Robertson is very influential among many, many religious conservatives.’

Media and Robertson driven myth.

If Pat Robertson was HALF as influential as the MSM and he pretends, he’d be a two term former President.

We both know he’s not. When he tried to capitalize on this so called ‘influence’ he failed, rather badly if you recall.

The only ‘real’ influence he has is as a whipping boy for the media whenever he or another ‘religous right’ so called leader says something stupid, like ‘New York suffered because it tolerates gays’.

(not saying HE said that, just giving an example of how the MSM uses him and others like him to their own ends)


185 posted on 11/07/2007 10:25:33 AM PST by Badeye (Ron Paul joined 88 Democrats.....)
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To: HamiltonJay

No amount of pragmatism, not even a double dose of reality, will hold sway here.


186 posted on 11/07/2007 10:26:34 AM PST by aligncare (no sarc tag necessary)
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To: Jmouse007
Remember when he turned down hundreds of thousands of dollars from the Saudis? That spoke volumes.

How, exactly, did that "speak volumes"? This seems to be one of the current RudyBot talking points, so I'd like a thorough explanation.

My personal view is this: By the time that payment was offered, we'd already discovered that some of the hijackers were Saudi nationals and that most of the visas were issued in Saudi Arabia. Accepting any payment from a nation that was responsible, however peripherally, for the attacks would've been a political blunder of historic proportions.

So yes, it came to pass that Rudy was smart enough to avoid making an obvious (and very public) mistake. I find it amazing that such a thing is now being touted as evidence that the man is fit for the highest office in the land. Talk about low expectations.

187 posted on 11/07/2007 10:27:41 AM PST by Charles Martel (The Tree of Liberty thirsts.)
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To: HamiltonJay
Please tell me where I ever stated Hillary was going to advance the conservative cause.

Please tell me where I said he is worse than Hillary.

I said Rudy is the WORST GOP candidate, mainly because there is nothing conservative about him. I simply can not vote for a wolf in sheep's clothing, even if he gets the R nod. Now I'm sure in your mind, that's the same as endorsing Hillary. Then again, you're stuck on stupid so...

As for Robertson, I wouldn't give a crap if he endorsed Thompson. He's a nut job in my view and does not speak for me as a Christian. In fact, I'd be more leery of Thompson if Roberston endorsed him. And yeah, Roberston probably made a deal with the devil. He is, after all, supporting Rudy.

188 posted on 11/07/2007 10:27:52 AM PST by rintense (I'm 4 Thompson!)
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To: Badeye

He owns a television network watched by millions of religious conservatives.

That’s a pretty big megaphone, imho.


189 posted on 11/07/2007 10:28:08 AM PST by aligncare (no sarc tag necessary)
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To: GourmetDan

He got cancer and left the race


190 posted on 11/07/2007 10:28:14 AM PST by HHKrepublican_2 (Giuliani '08)
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To: HamiltonJay

Then why are you supporting Rudy now when there are other candidates who take a true pro life view? You speak in double truths.


191 posted on 11/07/2007 10:30:24 AM PST by rintense (I'm 4 Thompson!)
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To: aligncare

‘He owns a television network watched by millions of religious conservatives.

That’s a pretty big megaphone, imho.’

When put to the test, it didn’t get him anywhere near the support needed to even finish his one attempt at gaining the RNC nomination.

Given this historical fact, and the observation that the height of the so called ‘religious rights’ power has waned since the heady days of the 1980’s, again, his endorsement is meaningless in real political terms.

Quite honestly, given Guiliani’s late coming around on partial birth abortion (genocide is an accurate description in my opinion of that procedure) I’d say this indicates a desperation on Robertson’s part, a very ugly rationalization given his (Robertson’s) rhetoric on that particular topic.


192 posted on 11/07/2007 10:32:26 AM PST by Badeye (Ron Paul joined 88 Democrats.....)
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193 posted on 11/07/2007 10:33:58 AM PST by newzjunkey
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To: rintense

Giuliani is a law and order, fiscal, small government conservative... just not a social conservative.

He’s an 80 percent friend of conservatives, not a 20 percent enemy of theirs.

I’m paraphrasing a well known Reagan quote, of course.


194 posted on 11/07/2007 10:35:22 AM PST by aligncare (no sarc tag necessary)
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To: aligncare

SIGH. If you believe that, then Rudy is your guy. Congratulations on liberalizing the republican party.


195 posted on 11/07/2007 10:37:58 AM PST by rintense (I'm 4 Thompson!)
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To: SmoothTalker

“What kind of conservative religious leader endorses a pro-abort and pro-gay candidate?”

Wolves in sheeps clothing. Satan strikes again.


196 posted on 11/07/2007 10:40:48 AM PST by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: aligncare
Giuliani is a law and order, fiscal, small government conservative... just not a social conservative.

Another way of saying that is that he's one of those Log Cabin Wall Street Journal Country Club for Growth poofs.

The problem is that there is not enough of them to elect a president. What some of you derisively refer to as "social conservatives" are the regular folks who make this country work and who have a veto on the presidency.

197 posted on 11/07/2007 10:41:14 AM PST by tear gas (Because of the 22nd Amendment, we are losing President. Bush. Can we afford to lose him now?)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Oh, brother. Whatever respect I used to have for Pat is now gone. To endorse this moral cesspool is the biggest betrayal of Christian principles I’ve seen in a long time.


198 posted on 11/07/2007 10:42:07 AM PST by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: tear gas

You want Hillary for President, go exercise your “veto”.


199 posted on 11/07/2007 10:42:27 AM PST by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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To: tear gas

The more troubling thing is that there are better candidates, better conservative candidates, than Rudy. Yet some ‘conservatives’ here would rather throw their support behind him now.


200 posted on 11/07/2007 10:45:38 AM PST by rintense (I'm 4 Thompson!)
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