Posted on 11/06/2007 3:17:41 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
White House hopeful Fred Thompson says the United States can no longer afford to have open borders.
The former Tennessee Republican senator says Americans particularly can't take that risk with terrorists threatening the nation with the worst imaginable weapons.
Thompson spoke at the South Carolina Veteran's Memorial outside the state Capitol as he named a new member of his national campaign team.
Thompson says Brigadier General James Livingston will serve as national co-chair of Veterans for Fred Thompson.
The 33-year veteran of the United States Marine Corps has been awarded several service medals, including the Congressional Medal of Honor, the Distinguished Service Medal and a Purple Heart.
He gave Mc Cain a pass? He is the worse of the bunch regards to immigration.
***I agree. I don’t know if he has criticised McCain on this issue, but it wouldn’t surprise me. I hardly bother with that guy.
I don’t think Hunter is out of line to take Thompson, Romeny or any of the other players to task on this point, to a point. The problem as I see it is that Hunter hasn’t gained traction.
***I agree. But that would be the purview of another thread, maybe “How Hunter could gain traction” or something.
That truly saddens me, because I do think he’s been in the hunt for a long time on this subject and I think he’s the best man.
***Good to see we agree on this.
The choices are more than likely going to be Giuliani, Romney, Huckabee and Thompson by primary or caucus day.
I’ll be voting for Thompson with those choices.
***I know I won’t vote for Rudy. I’ll vote straight 100% republican ticket, and if it’s rudy at the top, I have already decided I’m writing in Hunter. The rest I would just need to look over some.
I would like to see Hunter and Thompson team up at some point. I hope Hunter doesn’t slam Thompson to the point that he won’t have anything to do with him.
***Same here. I’m giving my support to Hunter until he no longer asks for it.
A Hunter/Thomson ticket would be my preference, but I’d take a Thompson/Hunter ticket any day over the other possibilities. These two men would make a great team!
***Agreed.
Of course I would have rather seen Thompson, as every other politician in Washington, as hot about the illegal immigration problem as long as I have, but Thompson is speaking out strongly and unequivically on this issue now.
***The problem with Road-to-Des-Moines conversions is that you can’t trust them. The candidate obviously doesn’t consider the issue a priority.
That and the fact a number of reputable polls have Fred in the #2 spot nationally is good enough to earn my support.
***Well, maybe if we have that conversation on one of those threads, it would be pertinent. This is an immigration thread. The reason why Thompson is hardlining on immigration is because there’s a lot of heat over this issue, and if that’s the case it would be important to keep it clear who has kept the consistent stance on this important issue.
Wave the flag for your guy, by all means. But it makes no sense to run down another good candidate in the process.
***My candidate criticised him, so I feel it is acceptable to criticize him on this issue. If that’s running him down, then why hasn’t there been a big backlash against Hunter for violating the 11th commandment? There’s a certain point where you need to discuss the merits of one candidate versus another.
Thanks Kevmo.
He identified McCain as the “Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party”. I am not sure there is much more to be said. :) I have no complaints and am glad some in the top tier are picking up some of Hunter’s positions. When you go from “aspirations of citizenship” to “tough on border security”, that’s a win for us all.
Its all about support. After a year of going nowhere, Hunter’s voice has been silenced. Just reminding everyone of political reality. You seem to be out on a limb. Hang on.
***I’ll hang on as long as I can. And on this particular issue, Hunter is the better candidate. Tancredo is also, but that’s the Tanc’s supporters’ job to support him.
LIVINGSTON, JAMES E.
Rank and organization: Captain, U.S. Marine Corps, Company E, 2d Battalion, 4th Marines, 9th Marine Amphibious Brigade. place and date: Dai Do, Republic of Vietnam, 2 May 1968. Entered service at: McRae, Ga. Born: 12 January 1940, Towns, Telfair County, Ga. Citation: For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty while serving as Commanding Officer, Company E, in action against enemy forces. Company E launched a determined assault on the heavily fortified village of Dai Do, which had been seized by the enemy on the preceding evening isolating a marine company from the remainder of the battalion. Skillfully employing screening agents, Capt. Livingston maneuvered his men to assault positions across 500 meters of dangerous open rice paddy while under intense enemy fire. Ignoring hostile rounds impacting near him, he fearlessly led his men in a savage assault against enemy emplacements within the village. While adjusting supporting arms fire, Capt. Livingston moved to the points of heaviest resistance, shouting words of encouragement to his marines, directing their fire, and spurring the dwindling momentum of the attack on repeated occasions. Although twice painfully wounded by grenade fragments, he refused medical treatment and courageously led his men in the destruction of over 100 mutually supporting bunkers, driving the remaining enemy from their positions, and relieving the pressure on the stranded marine company. As the 2 companies consolidated positions and evacuated casualties, a third company passed through the friendly lines launching an assault on the adjacent village of Dinh To, only to be halted by a furious counterattack of an enemy battalion. Swiftly assessing the situation and disregarding the heavy volume of enemy fire, Capt. Livingston boldly maneuvered the remaining effective men of his company forward, joined forces with the heavily engaged marines, and halted the enemy's counterattack Wounded a third time and unable to walk, he steadfastly remained in the dangerously exposed area, deploying his men to more tenable positions and supervising the evacuation of casualties. Only when assured of the safety of his men did he allow himself to be evacuated. Capt. Livingston's gallant actions uphold the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and the U.S. Naval Service.
Semper Fi
Regards
alfa6 ;>}
When you’re at 3%, you’re not better on ANY issue.
Then tell me whats the difference between DH and FDT's positions on illegal immigration?
If the length of time each has been vocal on the issue is the only basis for your criticising him, then pointing out DH's poll standing va FDT is indeed a relevent response.
He identified McCain as the “Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party”.
***I didn’t catch that it was aimed at McCain. That was a great zinger.
I am not sure there is much more to be said. :) I have no complaints and am glad some in the top tier are picking up some of Hunter’s positions. When you go from “aspirations of citizenship” to “tough on border security”, that’s a win for us all.
***If the issue is important to voters, they’ll want to know who has been the most consistent on it. I doubt there are that many single-issue immigration voters, based upon looking at Hunter & Tancredo, but there is some underlying anger in the electorate that seems untapped.
My guy ALWAYS polls better than your guy!
sorry - could not resist. Carry on.....
Oh, so once again this is a my-guy-polls-better-than-your-guy thread. Maybe the title should be changed.
Whatever, chum.
So that's why enforcement, and enforcement at the border, has to be primary.
Or are you just parsing what you want?
If you want to say Fred is a johnny come lately about illegal immigration [after all he talked about it quite a while before declaring] then you’d have to call Hunter a johnny come lately on just about everything else that he has not been talking about [until recently].
Judges, foreign relations, social security, entitlement reform, limited government. The list is very long. Although some of these things I don’t know that he is even talking about now. I quit paying attention months ago, when just about the only thing on his website was the border fence.
That is a ridiculous charge. The more people who speak up on it, the more likely it will be that the fence will get built. Support is helpful, but you don’t want Hunter to have support on this issue.
To a lot of conservatives, this was not important until this past year. So you’re going to have to make this charge against a lot of people. A lot of freepers too. Seems like you really don’t want to get anything done.
Makes a great tagline.
Then tell me whats the difference between DH and FDT’s positions on illegal immigration?
***Well, let’s see, for the last 5 years DH has been real vocal about it. For the last few years we haven’t heard anything from FDT.
If the length of time each has been vocal on the issue is the only basis for your criticising him, then pointing out DH’s poll standing va FDT is indeed a relevent response.
***It’s not the only basis. And why would it be “indeed a relevant response”? Just choose any topic, call it TopicA. If a candidate is real strong on TopicA and has been for 2 decades, he’s better on TopicA than candidateB who only recently came around to discussing this topic and had not supported TopicA when he had the chance in the past.
Rep. Hunter: “I can tell you that my proposals to significantly increase and strengthen deportations, penalties, interior and border enforcement, and to curtail the incentives for illegal aliens generally had few vocal allies in the US Senate…Mr. Thompson certainly was not among them.”
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