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Hollywood writers strike as talks fail (Dinosaur Media DeathWatchâ„¢)
Los Angeles Times ^ | November 5, 2007 | Richard Verrier and Claudia Eller

Posted on 11/05/2007 1:23:49 AM PST by abb

Hollywood's film and television writers went on strike early this morning after last-ditch efforts to negotiate a deal with the major studios failed Sunday.

Despite the aid of a federal mediator and back-channel talks between top writers and studio executives, the sides were ultimately too far apart to bridge the massive divide between them and avert the first writers strike in nearly two decades.

After three months of contentious negotiations, talks broke down Wednesday night when the writers' three-year contract expired. Although they made minimal headway on some issues Sunday, the parties could not come to terms on such key issues as how much writers are paid when their shows are sold online.

The question now is no longer whether or when they will strike, but how long a walkout will last and how much pain it will inflict.

Both sides are girding for what many believe will be a long and debilitating strike, potentially more disruptive than the 22-week walkout by writers in 1988, which cost the entertainment industry an estimated $500 million.

"Once it starts, it's going to get ugly," said one of the guild's strike captains Sunday.

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"It is unfortunate that they choose to take this irresponsible action," alliance President Nick Counter said.

The guild said that although the union had agreed to withdraw its proposal to double DVD pay, which had been a stumbling block in negotiations, producers refused to make concessions in other key areas. Among other things, producers refused to grant the union jurisdiction for most new-media writing, the guild said. They also insisted on a proposal that would allow them to reuse movies or TV shows on any platform for promotional purposes with no residual payment.

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(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dbm; hollywood; strike; television; wga
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

I know a lot of people in “the arts.” And I know that 99.9999% of those who complain about the high salaries and all the rest don’t want to take the chance of doing it themselves.


121 posted on 11/05/2007 2:11:31 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

LOL! Anyone can write for 100 pages, right?


Actually anyone can write 100 pages. It’s the same as saying anyone can bang together a bookcase on a Saturday afternoon. But not everyone can write a 100 pages that someone is willing to invest in or make a piece of fine furniture.


122 posted on 11/05/2007 2:13:49 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: durasell

That is true.


123 posted on 11/05/2007 2:14:54 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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To: Rita Hayworth
Worst movie ever made. I wish I could get that 138 minutes of my life back. Absolute garbage.

We Were Soldiers was high art compared to The Thin Red Line.

124 posted on 11/05/2007 2:15:15 PM PST by Charles Martel (The Tree of Liberty thirsts.)
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To: Diplomat

Because if he doesn’t re-kill the person he unkilled within a minute then somebody else dies. He killed his girlfriend’s father figuring that one out. And he was going to re-kill Chuck but got distracted. It’s a brilliantly quirky little show, I’m surprised it’s found an audience.


125 posted on 11/05/2007 2:16:35 PM PST by discostu (a mountain is something you don't want to %^&* with)
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To: Charles Martel
“The Thin Red Line” was indeed Art. Malick wanted to do an impressionistic picture of warfare. It certainly wasn’t typical of most war films.
126 posted on 11/05/2007 2:19:32 PM PST by Borges
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

I know more bartenders and restaurant managers who started out as actors and writers than guys who make their living acting or writing. These are hideously high risk professions. The odds of earning a living in them are very long. As a Hollywood guy once said to me, “At any given time there are fewer than 200 movie stars.”


127 posted on 11/05/2007 2:19:51 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: Diplomat
My very first question was: if he wakes his dead girlfriend up and then refuses to touch her again because she’ll die, why doesn’t he do the same for all the other people he awakens from the dead? It’s OK for him to re-kill strangers, but not acquaintances?

If he doesn't "re-kill" someone, some other person in his vicinity dies.

128 posted on 11/05/2007 2:21:45 PM PST by Charles Martel (The Tree of Liberty thirsts.)
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To: All

129 posted on 11/05/2007 2:31:57 PM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

I would have expected catchy slogans.


130 posted on 11/05/2007 2:34:04 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: discostu

Thank you for the explanation. I didn’t watch very much at all before I stopped watching. I got more of the story off a news pormo show and started wondering how they dealt with this issue; especially if the show’s supposed to be good.


131 posted on 11/05/2007 2:34:34 PM PST by Diplomat
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To: Charles Martel
If he doesn't "re-kill" someone, some other person in his vicinity dies.

This guy needs to stroll through the cemetary closest to the democrat convention in 2008.

132 posted on 11/05/2007 2:37:01 PM PST by Diplomat
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To: abb
Time to bring back the [unscripted] Rush Limbaugh TV show. Now that was a funny show!
133 posted on 11/05/2007 2:38:57 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion; abb

The last writer’s strike (1988) was the impetus for unscripted shows like Cops and America’s Most Wanted. In many ways the Fox Network (entertainment side) owes a lot to that 1988 strike. It’s influence can still be felt today with all these reality shows. So be careful what you wish for.


134 posted on 11/05/2007 2:50:18 PM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

And the last threatened strike brought us Reality TV and the rebirth of prime time game shows... I think we have a crimes against humanity case against the writers.


135 posted on 11/05/2007 2:53:26 PM PST by discostu (a mountain is something you don't want to %^&* with)
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To: discostu; Borges

FR humor rules!


136 posted on 11/05/2007 3:01:25 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Global warming is to Revelations as the theory of evolution is to Genesis.)
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To: abb
Soap Operas huh...can’t they just make up the dialog as they go along? During my college days we called it...improvisation.
137 posted on 11/05/2007 3:08:15 PM PST by Conservative4Ever (Hoping my 'carbon footprint' has crushed a few liberals)
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To: abb

The silly thing about this strike is the only show I watch that will probably be affected is Heroes. Stargate Atlantis is produced in Vancouver so that won’t be affected. And the only other shows I watch are reality TV and Fox News. Oh and Judge Judy too!!! :D


138 posted on 11/05/2007 3:33:16 PM PST by Dengar01
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To: seemoAR
Can someone tell me why there is such a long credit list at the end of movies. I don’t really care who the bathroom attendant was.

Perhaps the powers that be offer up screen credits to keep payroll down.

139 posted on 11/05/2007 4:22:19 PM PST by Milhous (Gn 22:17 your descendants shall take possession of the gates of their enemies)
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
Yes, who's going to write all the *spew* that passes for entertainment? I got slapped in the face last night when I was channel surfing and happened to land on Bravo TV -- a pornographic commercial was showing, which I hope my brain can forget! These are evil people. And this wasn't at 2 in the morning or something -- this was early evening. To think that children could have been watching this spew. It's disgusting.

Life after Television

TV defies the most obvious fact about its customers -- their prodigal and efflorescent diversity. people perform scores of thousands of different jobs; pursue multifarious hobbies; read hundreds of thousands of different publications. TV ignores the reality that people are not inherently couch potatoes; given a chance, they talk back and interact. People have little in common except their prurient interests and morbid fears and anxieties. Necessarily aiming its fare at this lowest-common-denominator target, television gets worse and worse every year. ...

Television is not vulgar because people are vulgar, it is vulgar because people are similar in their prurient interests and sharply differentiated in their civilized concerns. ...

Television is a tool of tyrants. Its overthrow will be a major force for freedom and individuality, culture and morality. That overthrow is at hand.


140 posted on 11/05/2007 4:28:43 PM PST by Milhous (Gn 22:17 your descendants shall take possession of the gates of their enemies)
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