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Passengers revolt after being told to fly on jet with its wing tip missing
The Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | November 3, 2007 | DANIEL BOFFEY

Posted on 11/03/2007 5:48:45 PM PDT by Stoat

Passengers revolt after being told to fly on jet with its wing tip missing

By DANIEL BOFFEY - More by this author » Last updated at 21:43pm on 3rd November 2007

  An airline crew faced a rebellion when they told passengers they were going to fly on a jet that had lost its wing tip in a runway crash.

 

The SriLankan Airlines customers had been on the Airbus A340 a day earlier when it sliced through a wing of a stationary British Airways 747 at Heathrow, delaying departure by 24 hours.

So they were amazed to be boarding the same plane next day for the ten-hour flight to Colombo.

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Wreckage: Part of one of the wing tips lies on the runway

When cabin crew then admitted there was still a 5ft wing tip missing, there was "a minor revolt" as seven passengers demanded to be let off the aircraft.

A further two-hour delay followed as their baggage was removed before the aircraft could take off.

Club-class passenger Ian McKie, 54, from Loughton, Essex, said: "We were put up in hotels the night of the crash and next morning we were told we would be on a different plane that day.

"We only realised that we were actually going on the same aircraft when we got to the Club lounge and saw the plane but without its wing tip."

The former policeman, who was jetting off for a two-week holiday with his partner Gill Stone, 52, added: "On board, the cabin crew admitted that it was the same one as last time and that the tip had been ripped off.

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A closer view shows the broken wing on the BA 747

"They assured us it didn't matter but a number of the passengers insisted that they would rather get on the next flight."

The collision happened shortly after 10pm two weeks ago when the BA011 flight to Singapore was waiting on a runway, followed by the SriLankan Airbus.

The SriLankan aircraft wing ripped through the BA flight's wing, tearing off a huge chunk and resulting in the BA jumbo being grounded.

SriLankan Airlines insisted there was no danger in flying without a wing tip.

It added: "They are purely for aerodynamics and to keep fuel costs to a minimum. There is no impact on safety at all. Safety is our absolute priority."



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airline; airlines; ceylon; damagedwinglet; friendlyskies; passengers; plane; revolt; srilanka
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To: Stoat

ROTFLMAO!!!


81 posted on 11/04/2007 12:23:09 AM PDT by 4woodenboats (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: been_lurking

Of course it will fly without wingtips. The point is that the design has never been certified with one wingtip.

The right thing to do is to fly the bird back to the repair facility without passengers. The Experimental classification in the United States prohibits the use of the aircraft for carrying paying passengers. Common sense dictates that the same general rule should apply here.


82 posted on 11/04/2007 3:45:52 AM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: diogenes ghost

I buy the winglets purpose and necessity to actually achieve flight. I guess 24h is enough time to determine whether the impact itself may have caused damage to the plane beyond removing a wing tip? The wing itself can take tremendous loads, obviously, and probably survived the impact fine.

Saying all of that... I wouldn’t get on the plane either. Better to not see or know about all of the things actually broken on it than to see the remains of a shredded wing tip.


83 posted on 11/04/2007 3:57:25 AM PST by steveyp
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To: zipper

YOu may be right - but then why the greater attention paid to the BA 747?

Sounds like sensational reporting to me.


84 posted on 11/04/2007 6:35:35 AM PST by TheBattman (Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: xsrdx
Er.. not sure how you would know that without checking the remainder of the wing and wing spars for structural damage?

What the hell kind of airline flies passengers on a damaged airplane?

Maybe they checked overnight and determined the wing was otherwise sound, and yes the winglets are not necessary to flight, but still


I'm not sure what kind of gear they would have to check an aircraft still at the gate, but just from a PR perspective, if I was running SLA, I think I would have quietly moved it somewhere else and repaired it. There's no way in hell I would have asked the same passengers to fly on such an aircraft, and at the very least I would have done some kind of field repair to at least make it not look like it was torn up.
85 posted on 11/04/2007 7:36:23 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Stoat

The Sri Lankan airliner “hit” the British Airlines plane. British Airlines is the one that want to fly with a broken wing tip.


86 posted on 11/04/2007 8:08:21 AM PST by US_MilitaryRules (All my bullets are dipped in PIG fat. How about yours?)
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To: TheBattman
YOu may be right - but then why the greater attention paid to the BA 747?

Sounds like sensational reporting to me.

Exactly. They ran the only picture they had, which appears to have been taken by a passenger.

87 posted on 11/04/2007 11:00:34 AM PST by zipper
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To: TheBattman

A340 CDL 57-2

“One may be missing provided hole is covered. Increase fuel consumption by 1%. Reduce the take-off and approach climb limiting weight by 2%.The maximum take-off weight must not be higher than 245 tonnes.”


88 posted on 11/04/2007 11:13:14 AM PST by zipper
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To: Stoat

With part of the winglet missing would the airplane pull to that side or to the other side?


89 posted on 11/04/2007 11:17:00 AM PST by RightWhale (anti-razors are pro-life)
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To: Stoat
I was on a flight to Greenland once, and witnessed a piece of sheet metal on the wing whip around in the wind for a few minutes, then fly off. We could see it was just a weather cover for one of the aileron pivots, so we weren't too concerned about it.

Years before that, I was an Airways of New Mexico flight (which was eventually shut down when FAA inspectors found lots of engine block cracks in their planes). The ground crew forgot to lock the baggage compartment door behind one of the engines, so the door began banging up and down right after takeoff. One of the passengers, sitting in the copilot seat, tapped the pilot on the shoulder and pointed it out to him. Boy was he pissed. He stood that plane on its wingtip and set it back down in a hurry. I got two takeoffs for the price of one.

It wasn't nicknamed "Scareways of New Mexico" for nothing.

90 posted on 11/04/2007 11:31:09 AM PST by FlyVet
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To: xsrdx

So the plane we are looking at is not the plane they were being asked to fly in?


91 posted on 11/04/2007 11:37:23 AM PST by donna (We live in this fog of political correctness, where everything is perpetual deception.-John Hagee)
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To: donna
So the plane we are looking at is not the plane they were being asked to fly in?

You can see the wing of the Sri Lankan A340 in the foreground of the photo, but yes the shredded winglet, and the part on the ground, belongs to the British Airways 747 that takes up most of the photo.

92 posted on 11/04/2007 12:55:33 PM PST by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: Stoat
FYI, I an shamelessly stealing that polar bear photo. I'm not sure how I will use it yet, but I'll make a use for it, if necessary.

LOL!

93 posted on 11/04/2007 2:11:51 PM PST by magslinger (cranky right-winger)
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To: magslinger
FYI, I an shamelessly stealing that polar bear photo. I'm not sure how I will use it yet, but I'll make a use for it, if necessary.

LOL!

I'm honored to understand that I may have played a small role in making others smile; please use it in good health and at your whim  :-)

Considering the 'advisory' theme of this thread i.e. "check the wings of your chosen airline to assure yourself of their existence prior to boarding",I would also wish to advise, as a public service, that Winter is approaching in many parts of the world and particular care should be exercised when venturing outdoors

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and also when visiting various interactive exhibits, as miscellaneous body parts will sometimes go missing if appropriate care is not exercised.

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94 posted on 11/04/2007 4:39:39 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: jackibutterfly

Yes, those ends of wing tips that point up, reduce drag, I forget the formal name for them, but they have ZERO impact on the lift capacity or airworthiness of an aircraft


95 posted on 11/04/2007 4:43:14 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: xjcsa

I dont know why you're even questioning this. Any aircraft in which you could see a part of the wing ripped off is UNSAFE even if Wilbur Wright signed off on the inspection sheet. We used to ground aircraft for even the slightest delamination on the wing.

Rather than trying to justify this breach of QA Protocol, just chalk it up to a lapse of judgement and move on.

96 posted on 11/04/2007 5:53:54 PM PST by Samurai_Jack (ride out and confront the evil!)
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To: xsrdx

I found it interesting that only 7 passengers wanted off the plane. I guess the remaining passengers were the sheeple.


97 posted on 11/04/2007 6:12:20 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: All

The Daily Mail article that this thread links to has been (finally!) linked at the DrudgeReport.

Welcome aboard, Matt! Better late than never! LOL


98 posted on 11/04/2007 6:24:28 PM PST by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Samurai_Jack
Regarding your diagram: it's the wrong plane. It was an A340, not an A380. Whole different beast. But nice try.

I dont know why you're even questioning this. Any aircraft in which you could see a part of the wing ripped off is UNSAFE even if Wilbur Wright signed off on the inspection sheet. We used to ground aircraft for even the slightest delamination on the wing.

I'm questioning it because I think people (you) are jumping to conclusions without knowing enough of the facts. The winglet pictured was from the other plane (and yes, it looked very bad, but it wasn't the plane in question here). If the A340's wingtip was only minimally damaged, and it was properly removed, and if it's certified to fly without it, and if the rest of the wing was properly inspected and found to be safe, then this was probably a reasonable move. I'm guessing all those things did happen; the airline would not want to open itself to an accident, and the pilots are probably not stupid.

But don't let details and facts get in the way of trashing the airline.

99 posted on 11/04/2007 7:01:22 PM PST by xjcsa (Defenseless enemies are fun.)
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To: Stoat

Amazing.


100 posted on 11/04/2007 7:34:20 PM PST by The Mayor ( A man's heart plans his way, but the Lord directs his steps.—Proverbs 16:9)
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