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Hillary's in trouble
The Toledo Blade ^
| November 3, 2007
| Jack Kelly
Posted on 11/03/2007 3:06:30 PM PDT by Baladas
SEN. Hillary Rodham Clinton apparently has hit a speed bump on the way to her coronation.
If Mrs. Clinton is to prevail in the general election she must, as in the primaries, divide to rule. She may get help from petulant conservatives. The polls make it clear that Mr. Giuliani is the Republican most likely to beat Mrs. Clinton. But his nomination could spark three splinter candidacies on the right.
The first could be by a pro-life candidate who is offended by Mr. Giuliani's pro-choice views on abortion. This would be a clear case of cutting off one's nose to spite one's face. The issue of abortion will be settled in the courts. The next president likely will appoint two, and perhaps as many as four, Supreme Court justices. Mr. Giuliani has said he'll appoint judges like Chief Justice John Roberts and Samuel Alito. Mrs. Clinton will appoint judges who will make sure Roe vs. Wade is the law of the land forever.
The second could be an immigration restrictionist. Mr. Giuliani might be the strongest of the Republicans on border security, but his views about illegals who just came here to work are too kind for some.
The third - and the most likely - is that Ron Paul will run on the Libertarian ticket. This should help Republicans, because most of the votes Mr. Paul likely would get would come from moonbats apoplectic about recent successes in Iraq. They are angry with Mrs. Clinton for suggesting she wouldn't withdraw all troops immediately upon taking the oath of office.
A Paul candidacy excepted, the arithmetic of the 2008 election is clear. In a two-candidate race, the Republican wins, especially if the Republican is named Giuliani. In a multiple candidate race, Mrs. Clinton wins.
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antigunrudy; election2008; elections; hillary; hillaryclinton; hitlery; proabortionrudy; rino; rinorudy; ronpaul; rudygiuliani
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To: Baladas
There is no way I will ever ote fro Rino Rudy. I will go third party first. It is time to stop this liberal.
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posted on
11/04/2007 3:30:48 AM PST
by
Hydroshock
("The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey -- undiluted and untaxed." - Sam Ervin)
To: Liz
I hadn’t seen that first graphic by DHS before. Good find.
To: Baladas; Extremely Extreme Extremist
To me, this the enemy's game plan - to keep the GOP base split and to get kooks to run third party
Actually, Republicans are trying to get Bloomberg to run again, hoping that could split the Dim vote in some key northeastern states like NY, NJ, PA, CT.
Republicans like me who support Ron Paul in the primaries are very likely to stay with the GOP. I'm going to vote GOP unless Giuliani is the nominee. To vote for him would compromise everything I've voted for over the years. And I don't like him and I don't trust him at all. I can easily for for any other candidate in the GOP field and I think Fred or Mitt show a lot of promise.
Ron Paul says he won't run third-party. And that is sensible. It really is wrong to run for a party's nomination in its primaries and then jump ship when you lose the primaries. Even in 2000, Buchanan left the party long before the primaries for this reason. I don't think voters will vote in any great numbers for a sore loser who participates in the primary process and then refuses to abide by it. If you do that, you were never a member of the party to begin with.
Now, someone like Bloomberg who is a liberal party-hopper to begin with, he could get away with running since he isn't participating in the GOP primaries. And that's why some GOP bigwigs are trying to get him to run. He would do far more damage to Hitlery than to us. And in her key states. He would also hurt Giuliani too, another reason not to pick Rudi if Bloomberg decides to run because they both appeal to the same kinds of voters, Bloomberg being Rudi's handpicked successor.
To: whitedog57
Everyone knows that the Ron Perot campaign is being orchestrated here by HilaryCare moles. The irony would be if he drew more Dems than Repubs.
Pray for W and Our Troops
104
posted on
11/04/2007 7:00:37 AM PST
by
bray
(Think "Betray U.S." Think Democrat)
To: bill1952
Bloombeg/gore or Gore/Bloomie would be a dream.Concur. It would be great to see the liberal/rat/traitor vote split for a change!
To: ClarenceThomasfan
I almost want Rudy to win the nomination just so I can see some of the (extremist one-note Jonnys)heads explode around here. I wouldn't get mad. I would just merely grab the popcorn and beer as the GOP goes the way of the Whig and Free Soil parties.
To: bray
Everyone knows that the Ron Perot campaign is being orchestrated here by HilaryCare moles. The irony would be if he drew more Dems than Repubs.
Actually, it wouldn't surprise me if the GOP bigwigs might approach Ron Paul to try to get him to run third-party if Bloomberg won't do it, the idea being that he would suck up the hardcore antiwar vote. Nader has failed twice so the antiwar types might not go for him a third time.
I think Ron Paul would decline though. He wouldn't do that to his supporters. He'll go home and run for Congress again.
To: George W. Bush
Sorry, there are no real Ron Perot supporters. Just like last election there was no real InSane supporters, only crossover Dims. You and they are a mirage being generated by the DNC HQ. You and EEE may have thought you were savey enough to fool us, but you need a Conservative core to do that and you don’t.
You believed he could split the GOP and then he opened his mouth. The only people he is drawing now are serious drug addled anti-America Dims. Too Bad for you.
Pray for W and Our Troops
108
posted on
11/04/2007 7:15:10 AM PST
by
bray
(Think "Betray U.S." Think Democrat)
To: bray
To: Bobkk47
Romney is a Mormon. The South will never vote for a Mormon. How does Romney win without the South?
110
posted on
11/04/2007 7:51:25 AM PST
by
Iwo Jima
("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
To: Gay State Conservative
and Social Security without having paid into it and going to the head of the socialized medicine wait line.
To: Beckwith; freekitty
Speaking of common sense, I am joining a movement I saw on another thread.
That is from now on, no more "First Name Basis" for Mrs. Bill Clinton. After all, I have never met her, and she's no friend of anyone I know, so let's keep it formal, shall we? Mrs. Bill Clinton.
A vote for Mrs. Bill Clinton is, unfortunately for this country, a vote for Mr. BIll Clinton. Remember that: "Mrs. Bill Clinton" That's all she is and all she is ever going to be.
112
posted on
11/05/2007 5:26:23 AM PST
by
Kenny Bunk
(Ted Kennedy was not a licensed driver at Chappaquiddick!)
To: Kenny Bunk
Good for you. Where is that other thread? If you don’t mind.
113
posted on
11/05/2007 5:42:26 AM PST
by
freekitty
((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
To: George W. Bush
Ah, I like a person who thinks. You hit the nail on the head and it’s just not the Dem party; it’s ours too. The point is to keep our party divided so they can elect whatever anti-american or rino they can to keep their agenda moving forward.
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posted on
11/05/2007 5:46:52 AM PST
by
freekitty
((May the eagles long fly our beautiful and free American sky.))
To: Baladas
"Mr. Giuliani has said he'll appoint judges like Chief Justice John Roberts and Samuel Alito."
Unfortunately, there is no record of Rudy appointing conservative or "constructionist" judges while mayor of NYC. Why we should believe him is beyond me.
115
posted on
11/05/2007 5:57:36 AM PST
by
Little Ray
(Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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