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'This Will Make Voter Fraud Easier'
WSJ ^ | Nov.2, 2007 | JOHN FUND

Posted on 11/02/2007 6:01:51 AM PDT by COUNTrecount

Why does Mrs. Clinton want driver's licenses for illegal aliens?

Sen. Hillary Clinton was asked during a debate this week if she supported New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer's plan to give driver's licenses to illegal immigrants. At first she seemed to endorse the idea, then claimed, "I did not say that it should be done, but I certainly recognize why Governor Spitzer is trying to do it."

The next day she took a firmer stand (sort of) by offering general support for Gov. Spitzer's approach, but adding that she hadn't studied his specific plan. She should, and so should the rest of us. It stops just short of being an engraved invitation for people to commit voter fraud.

The background here is the National Voter Registration Act, commonly known as "Motor Voter," that President Bill Clinton signed into law in 1993. It required all states to offer voter registration to anyone getting a driver's license. One simply fills out a form and checks a box stating he is a citizen; he is then registered and in most states does not have to show any ID to vote.

But no one checks if the person registering to vote is indeed a citizen. That greatly concerns New York election officials, who processed 245,000 voter registrations at DMV offices last year. "It would be [tough to catch] if someone wanted to . . . get a number of people registered who aren't citizens and went ahead and got them drivers' licenses," says Lee Daghlian, spokesman for New York's Board of Elections.

(Excerpt) Read more at opinionjournal.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2008; democratparty; democrats; elections; fraud; hillary; immigrantlist; motorfraudo; motorvoter; spitzer; voterfraud
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BINGO !
1 posted on 11/02/2007 6:01:52 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: COUNTrecount

Thank you, John Fund!! It;s what I’ve been saying for 3 days. It’s ALL about VOTE FRAUD!!!!!!!!!


2 posted on 11/02/2007 6:04:31 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her PHONINESS is REAL!!!)
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To: COUNTrecount

I wonder where all the third world cabbies in NYC get their drivers license and cab medallion??


3 posted on 11/02/2007 6:07:44 AM PDT by aShepard
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To: COUNTrecount

All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others...


4 posted on 11/02/2007 6:12:55 AM PDT by GourmetDan
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To: aShepard
I wonder where all the third world cabbies in NYC get their drivers license and cab medallion??

Iran.

5 posted on 11/02/2007 6:14:04 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: COUNTrecount
"...I certainly recognize why Governor Spitzer is trying to do it."

So do we, beach!
For the same reason your husband did it: to make getting re-elected that much easier.

6 posted on 11/02/2007 6:21:32 AM PDT by Redbob (WWJBD - "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: COUNTrecount
Motor Voter is better described as Auto Fraudo. It was a democrat idea and intended to encourage exactly the voter registration of illegals.
7 posted on 11/02/2007 6:22:19 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Sgt_Schultze

From article.

Measures that curb voter fraud on the one hand and encourage it on the other will be central to the 2008 election. The Supreme Court will rule on the constitutionality of Indiana’s photo ID law next spring, while lawsuits challenging Gov. Spitzer’s moves will be in New York state courts.
Despite her muddled comments this week, there’s no doubt where Mrs. Clinton stands on ballot integrity. She opposes photo ID laws, even though they enjoy over 80% support in the polls. She has also introduced a bill to force every state to offer no-excuse absentee voting as well as Election Day registration—easy avenues for election chicanery. The bill requires that every state restore voting rights to all criminals who have completed their prison terms, parole or probation.


8 posted on 11/02/2007 6:33:46 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: COUNTrecount
One simply fills out a form and checks a box stating he is a citizen

Oh come on! Someone who broke the law to come here, someone who breaks the law by working and not paying taxes wouldn't break the law and check a box...no siree. /s

There is another long term issue here...how long before the Democrat-Socialist start using the fact that someone has voted as proof that they are a citizen?..see the vote proves that he/she is a citizen! After all, only citizens can vote so if someone voted in a National election they must be a citizen. Loopy Liberal Logic at its finest.
9 posted on 11/02/2007 6:34:35 AM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: COUNTrecount

There is an easy way to fix on site voter fraud IMO. As people come in, have people of all colors declare their citizenship at the border patrol check point station. Next step is the LE station for a thumb print to determine is you are a citizen that can legally vote , are dead, and are not voting “again” After that proceed at business as usual.


10 posted on 11/02/2007 6:42:57 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: COUNTrecount

“After 9/11, the Justice Department found that eight of the 19 hijackers were registered to vote.”

Who knew??????
Did anyone EVER hear this before???????


11 posted on 11/02/2007 6:48:33 AM PDT by diefree
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To: socialismisinsidious

And further in the article it states that libs in certain states, including Iowa, have sued to get the checkbox REMOVED completely.


12 posted on 11/02/2007 6:50:02 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: COUNTrecount

The 2008 election cycle will be the biggest voter fraud this Country has ever experienced. Is there any doubt?


13 posted on 11/02/2007 7:09:38 AM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: COUNTrecount; Liz
From the NY Post today:

“Clinton's handling of the issue also drew fire from New York Democrats who would normally be backing her "favorite daughter" candidacy.

"Until she takes a stand [against Spitzer's plan], I certainly wont be supporting her," said Long Island Assemblywoman Ginny Fields.

"If she's going to stay with that kind of attitude, it's the beginning of the end."

“One New York state Senate Democrat, asking for anonymity, said senators warned Spitzer in a recent closed-door meeting that the timing of his plan could cause Hillary agita.”

And agita it has caused…poor Mrs. Clinton. Seems like even the Dems are turning against her.

MIKE IN THE 'NO': REJECTS BESIEGED HILL'S STANCE ON 'ALIEN' LICENSES
14 posted on 11/02/2007 7:31:49 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Miss Didi

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1919972/posts?page=46

40 posted on 11/02/2007 9:31:48 AM EDT by kabar

This information needs to be spread.

How quickly we forget that the 9/11 Commission found that as many as 15 of the 19 hijackers were, in their words, potentially vulnerable to interception by border authorities. So why does this bill not address the 9/11 Commission’s recommendation for a secure identification system? The 19 9/11 hijackers had 63 validly issued U.S. driver’s licenses between them. What were they using that many for? They were moving around the country undetected and plotting and planning. In fact, as many as eight of them were even registered to vote. They then used those bogus licenses to board U.S. planes.
“They had 63 of these driver’s licenses between them, for the 19 of them. And these identification documents gave these hijackers unfettered access to nearly everything they needed to plan and carry out their attacks on Washington, D.C. and on New York City. And the identification cards also allowed them to remain in the country with the appearance of legitimacy long after their visas had expired and their presence in the United States became illegal.”

Cong, Ed Royce—December 7, 2004.


15 posted on 11/02/2007 7:45:45 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: COUNTrecount
I've yet to hear one single Republican say anything about Democrat voter fraud. I frustrates me (and has special relevance as I live in King County, WA) that the brazeness with which the left opposes Voter ID to facilitate fraud, and the shenannigans at polling places doesn't get more attention than it does.

We're beginning to resemble some squalid third world country in this regard.

16 posted on 11/02/2007 7:47:14 AM PDT by VR-21
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To: Miss Didi

Last night the toughest immigration law in the Nation was passed in Oklahoma:

(1) gives full enforcement powers to police officers, firemen,

(2) instructs all schools to perform complete background checks on all students,

(3) any landlord caught harboring an illegal immigrant faces FELONY charges.

Way to go Oklahoma.


17 posted on 11/02/2007 7:47:22 AM PDT by Liz (Rooty's not getting my guns or the name of my hairdresser.)
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To: COUNTrecount

btt


18 posted on 11/02/2007 7:49:52 AM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Liz
Great news indeed...Bill & Laura Ingraham were discussing it on The Factor.
19 posted on 11/02/2007 7:50:03 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Suzy Quzy
It;s what I’ve been saying for 3 days. It’s ALL about VOTE FRAUD!!!!!!!!!

It is indeed. Yet for some strange reason both the RNC and most GOP politicians (including the President) are dead silent about the isssue. ...even though the fraud helps Democrats exclusively. Kind of like the GOP establishment pushing amnesty even though the vast majority of the new citizens would vote Donkey. "The Stupid Party" is in full bloom these days.

20 posted on 11/02/2007 7:55:05 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo (My other Telecaster is a Thinline)
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